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Old 07-03-2010, 12:37 AM   #1411
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12v under seat cig outlet,

I want to set up some power accessory outlet. My local dealer tells me that BMW dont make a part which connects the acc power socket to the wiring loom.

I believe there should be something available to connect to this terminal



Is such a BMW part available? If so can somebody tell me the number? If not does anyone know where I a can get the terminal that connects with this one so I can wire something up
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Old 07-03-2010, 01:06 AM   #1412
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Can't help with the outlet as I couldn't find any over here in stores either. Ended up just connecting to the battery with a fuse inline and a waterproof male/female fitting so that it can be easily disconnected at any time.
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Old 07-03-2010, 02:59 AM   #1413
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Can't help with the outlet as I couldn't find any over here in stores either. Ended up just connecting to the battery with a fuse inline and a waterproof male/female fitting so that it can be easily disconnected at any time.
I did a similar thing. Straight off the battery with a fuse inline. Only difference is I just ran a basic 2 pin connector. Because it stays under the seat it doesnt need to be waterproof. I hook this up to a trickle charger every now and then. I also bought a cheapo 12V outlet from an auto store, for my gps. I set this up so it also plugs into the 2-pin connector, but can be completely removed when not in use. I created a plug for the connector when not in use by sacrificing a female end & blocking one end with silastic
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Old 07-03-2010, 04:09 AM   #1414
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The ABS bikes come with an accessory socket as standard. For those without, they will supply a socket for about £50 and a plug for £8.

Alternatively I went to an auto accessory shop and bought an accessory socket and plug for £5 which fits straight in the mounting hole by the shock. I soldered wires to the back of it, sealed it up with hot melt glue, chopped the plug off the connector under the seat and joined there. The socket has a rubber plug to seal the front when not in use.

The connector under the seat is permanently live so you can use it to trickle charge the battery or charge a phone in camp without leaving the ignition on.
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Old 07-03-2010, 06:02 AM   #1415
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I want to set up some power accessory outlet. My local dealer tells me that BMW dont make a part which connects the acc power socket to the wiring loom.

I believe there should be something available to connect to this terminal



Is such a BMW part available? If so can somebody tell me the number? If not does anyone know where I a can get the terminal that connects with this one so I can wire something up
Part number 24 should be what your looking for.
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Old 07-03-2010, 11:27 PM   #1416
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Or go click here and get whatever you want: http://www.powerlet.com/shop-by-product and put them in other locations too.
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Old 07-04-2010, 05:43 AM   #1417
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Part number 24 should be what your looking for.
You mean my teminal pictured plugs straight into the back of the power outlet?
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:46 AM   #1418
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Get a few of these:


http://www.sailgb.com/p/12v_16a_p_mo...n_socket__cap/

or a panel of these:


http://www.sailgb.com/p/12v_din_sockets__panel_of_3/
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Old 07-04-2010, 12:01 PM   #1419
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Just the job. The 1st one will fit straight into the mounting hole by the shock.
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Old 07-04-2010, 04:03 PM   #1420
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It looks like I'm going to have to replace my battery. I have heard people refer to the odyssey battery but I don't know why. Are they better? in what way?

My bike would not start after a few hours continuous riding yesterday. I couldnt even get the startermotor to crank the engine. I trailered it home and charged the battery overnight an it started no problem this morning
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:56 PM   #1421
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It looks like I'm going to have to replace my battery. I have heard people refer to the odyssey battery but I don't know why. Are they better? in what way?

My bike would not start after a few hours continuous riding yesterday. I couldnt even get the startermotor to crank the engine. I trailered it home and charged the battery overnight an it started no problem this morning
If it wouldn't start after a long ride but started after being charged I would suspect the charging system. Does the battry hold charge once charged up? What voltage does the dash show when the bike is running?
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:09 PM   #1422
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It looks like I'm going to have to replace my battery. I have heard people refer to the odyssey battery but I don't know why. Are they better? in what way?

My bike would not start after a few hours continuous riding yesterday. I couldnt even get the startermotor to crank the engine. I trailered it home and charged the battery overnight an it started no problem this morning
you shouldn't have upgraded the latte machine, the new one is sucking too much juice from the battery, throw the old one back on (do you really need the The Dalla Corte Evolution 3-Groups Latte Machine??)



What else are you running electrically on the bike?
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:35 PM   #1423
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What else are you running electrically on the bike?
No coffee machine , nuthin. I haven't connected the power outlet yet
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If it wouldn't start after a long ride but started after being charged I would suspect the charging system. Does the battry hold charge once charged up? What voltage does the dash show when the bike is running?
Well usually around 11.3 when I check it but yesterday, it dropped away to 7.7 and even lower when trying to start it.
When I tried to start it in would make the most pathetic sigh on the starter and then the dash would reset like the power had been completely cut off, sometimes I got a flickering temp light. Very strange!
There was no indication that it was not charging prior to turning the motor off (else I wouldn't have done it)

Would the plug in fault finder , thingy tell me whats wrong?
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:51 PM   #1424
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I'd say the batttery is buggered as mine died when I left my GPS on too long when I stopped the bike and never recovered, BMW replaced the battery free

Is yours the original battery? if so BMW should cover it
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:58 PM   #1425
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Well usually around 11.3 when I check it but yesterday, it dropped away to 7.7 and even lower when trying to start it.
When I tried to start it in would make the most pathetic sigh on the starter and then the dash would reset like the power had been completely cut off, sometimes I got a flickering temp light. Very strange!
There was no indication that it was not charging prior to turning the motor off (else I wouldn't have done it)

Would the plug in fault finder , thingy tell me whats wrong?
I am no electrical expert but from experience I would say ...

For starters it should "usually" be about 14 .... my volt reading is about 14.4 ish when riding without much load on the system. If I load it up by turning on lights and crap it goes down to 13.5 ish.

If its below about 12.5 during normal riding you are probably using more power than you are generating.

If it reads 11 or something with no load, then 7.7 as soon as the starter is tried, then I think your battery is rogered. If you are on the factory battery, then there is a good chance its fu@ked ... BMW have had a lot of problems with their OEM batteries in recent years (not sure who the supplier is but it must be someone crap). See Oly's post above. I would put in a new battery and check the system ... it needs to be a lot higher than the 11 you are used to seeing. If its not, even with a new battery, then either your voltage regulator or generator are also fu@ked.

If the clocks reset when trying to start it, then you battery is 100% flat.

Does the battery hold charge when you charge it? i.e. you charge it, and then the bike starts, but what happens if you turn the bike off, then leave it for 30 minutes, then try to start it again?

Plug in fault finder? the GS911? It doesnt tell you much at all on an X-Challenge. The bikes computer is not able to diagnose if your battery is fu@ked or not.
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