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Old 01-12-2015, 10:24 AM   #1
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~~~1983 Honda XL600R Total Engine Rebuild~~~

Hi Everyone,

I have owned this bike since 2004, and picked it up on the side of the road for $500. Ran great when I first bought it, gobs of power. Had the top end rebuilt a few years later (new piston, cylinder bored, etc). For the past couple years, I have been dealing with a fairly severe oil leak. Unfortunately, it looks like it is coming right out of the bottom of the motor where both sides of the crankcase come together. As of right now, I have the entire motor apart, and the crank case split. Looks like it had a (paper?)-like gasket which was very disintegrated. I cannot seem to find the center crankcase gasket anywhere, except for GasketKing. Does anyone have an experience with these gaskets? A whole gasket set for the entire engine is $21, and that's why I ask. I am planning on replacing all gaskets/seals, as well as a new piston and rings when I get it back together. Possibly any other parts that are out of spec as well. Thanks!
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:04 AM   #2
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1987 XL600 crankcase center gasket.

I'm sure this is what you need.

From a 1986 XL600:



GASKET, CRANKCASE
11191-MK2-000 11191-MN1-701
$13.49
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:14 AM   #3
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Ah-Ha! I never thought of searching for a different year. So the 1986 crankcase gasket WILL fit the 1983?
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:21 AM   #4
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I'll bet ya a dollar to a donut that it will.
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:28 AM   #5
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Haha, Ok. Looking at the schematics of both years, the pictures are identical. I would assume this would hold true for other seals and gaskets I may need. I know I have read it before, but does anyone have a list of what parts/years are interchangeable? I appreciate your help. I am going to order this gasket now.
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:39 AM   #6
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I would not assume the crankcase gasket from a different year will fit. Why guess? Most of the parts lookup places online can tell you what year a particular part will fit, given the part number. I looked up the crankcase gasket for a 1983 XL600R on cmsnl.com, then double checked it against partzilla.com. The two part numbers previously given do not fit the '83.

All that said, for joining case halves, a very common practice is to use Yamabond or Three Bond gray gasket sealant.

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detai...1-MG3-306.html

This Honda 11191-MG3-306 GASKET, CRANKCASE is used on these models and components:

1983 XL600R A CRANKCASE
1983 XL600R A GASKET KIT B
1983 XR500R A CRANKCASE 83-84
1983 XR500R A GASKET KIT B
1984 XL600R A CRANKCASE
1984 XL600R A GASKET KIT B
1984 XL600R AC CRANKCASE
1984 XL600R AC GASKET KIT B
1984 XR500R A CRANKCASE 83-84
1984 XR500R A GASKET KIT B

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Description
11191-MN1-701 GASKET,CRANKCASE
This Honda 11191-MN1-701 GASKET,CRANKCASE is used on these models and components:

2009 XR650L A CRANKCASE
2009 XR650L A GASKET KIT B
2009 XR650L AC CRANKCASE
2009 XR650L AC GASKET KIT B
2012 XR650L A CRANKCASE
2012 XR650L A GASKET KIT B
2012 XR650L AC CRANKCASE
2012 XR650L AC GASKET KIT B
2014 XR650L A CRANKCASE

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11191-MK2-000 GASKET, CRANKCASE
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Purchase this Honda 11191-MK2-000 GASKET, CRANKCASE --- GASKET, CRANKCASE (Honda Motorcycle Code 2002756) , GASKET, CRANKCASE (Honda Code 2002756)
This Honda 11191-MK2-000 GASKET, CRANKCASE is used on these models and components:

1985 XL600R A CRANKCASE
1985 XL600R A GASKET KIT B
1985 XL600R AC CRANKCASE
1985 XL600R AC GASKET KIT B
1985 XR600R A CRANKCASE
1985 XR600R A GASKET KIT B 85-92
1986 XL600R A CRANKCASE
1986 XL600R A GASKET KIT B
1986 XL600R AC CRANKCASE
1986 XL600R AC GASKET KIT B
1986 XR600R A CRANKCASE
1986 XR600R A GASKET KIT B 85-92
1987 XL600R A CRANKCASE
1987 XL600R A GASKET KIT B
1987 XL600R AC CRANKCASE
1987 XL600R AC GASKET KIT B
1987 XR600R A CRANKCASE
1987 XR600R A GASKET KIT B 85-92
1988 NX650 A CRANKCASE
1988 NX650 A GASKET KIT B
1988 NX650 AC CRANKCASE
1988 NX650 AC GASKET KIT B
1988 XR600R A CRANKCASE
1988 XR600R A GASKET KIT B 85-92
1989 GB500 A CRANKCASE
1989 GB500 A GASTET KIT B
1989 GB500 AC CRANKCASE
1989 GB500 AC GASTET KIT B
1989 NX650 A CRANKCASE
1989 NX650 A GASKET KIT B
1989 NX650 AC CRANKCASE
1989 NX650 AC GASKET KIT B
1989 XR600R A CRANKCASE
1989 XR600R A GASKET KIT B 85-92
1990 GB500 A CRANKCASE
1990 GB500 A GASTET KIT B
1990 GB500 AC CRANKCASE
1990 GB500 AC GASTET KIT B
1990 XR600R A CRANKCASE
1990 XR600R A GASKET KIT B 85-92
1991 XR600R A CRANKCASE
1991 XR600R A GASKET KIT B 85-92
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Old 01-12-2015, 12:06 PM   #7
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Ah, ok. I was on HondaPartsHouse.com which they do not give that info. Partszilla does. I will look closer next time. Thank you!!
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Old 01-12-2015, 12:18 PM   #8
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Some light reading for you. Yes the XL600 and the XR650l are very similar.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=713831
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Old 01-12-2015, 12:19 PM   #9
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Some light reading for you. Yes the XL600 and the XR650l are very similar. The exception are the cylinder and head bolt torque spec.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=713831
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Old 01-12-2015, 12:21 PM   #10
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Thanks, i will take a look at that thread. So, Neither the 1983 or 1984 (the years that are supposed to interchange for the gasket) are available. Partzilla people can't tell me if any other years will fit, even though the schematic pictures are 100% identical.
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Old 01-12-2015, 12:29 PM   #11
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Go with the 11191-MK2-000. Honda may make a miniscule change to a part but it will still cross over to other applications.

I meant 11191-MN1-701
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Old 01-12-2015, 12:47 PM   #12
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I don't see those available either. You still think that the 1986 crankcase gasket will work?
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Old 01-12-2015, 12:55 PM   #13
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Dammit I meant 11191-MN1-701

This is the updated part number for the 1985 and up XL600 which is also the part # for the XR600's and XR650l's
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Old 01-12-2015, 01:28 PM   #14
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Use the gasket Steve (mcma111) said to use. It will work.
Honda didn't change the architecture of these engines. I'm sure that gasket would work for an XR600R or an XR650L as well. I've used the clutch side case gasket for the XR650L on my XL600R.
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Old 01-12-2015, 01:35 PM   #15
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Ok! Thanks for the verification. I will order that one.
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