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Old 07-11-2012, 10:19 PM   #18091
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BTW, where do people eat in Evanston? I wanted something other than Lotty's but couldn't find ANYTHING other than burger chains. -al
There was a Mexican place downtown that was decent.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:42 AM   #18092
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I will say that dealing with the BLM is a f'ing nightmare, complete utter bureaucracy but a complete mess. For example this is why there are so few guides that do anything that leaves a BLM district. The paperwork to get a commercial permit for the area is buried under 126 other applications that take 6 months to process, per district. It is an example of some of government at its worst...
Man, I wish I still had these problems. I live in the second largest state in the Union that ranks 47th out of 50 for lands available to the public. Of that minuscule amount of public land, most of that is in the form of military bases (twice as much land is devoted to military bases as to national forest service). There is not one acre of BLM land, but there are millions of square miles of desert populated by a few cows so the private land owners can keep calling their land a "working ranch" and thereby avoid paying proper property tax.

Your sig line about 800 miles of singletrack...not going to happen anywhere but in the mountain west.

Which government is more for the people? BLM that uses a meager staff to keep millions of acres of public lands open to all the public, or a government that subsidizes millions of acres of land to a few wealthy land owners whose biggest complaint is how expensive it is to fence in all their land.
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:14 AM   #18093
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Well, it's a good thing my buddy called me up to help with his Homer-Simpson-esque maneuver dropping THIS into the oil well/frame of his XR.

Walrus: thanks for the grabber! it was a lot like night fishing. get a bite, it gets away * 100. then a catch and SLOWLY drag it in!
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Man, I wish I still had these problems. I live in the second largest state in the Union that ranks 47th out of 50 for lands available to the public. Of that minuscule amount of public land, most of that is in the form of military bases (twice as much land is devoted to military bases as to national forest service). There is not one acre of BLM land, but there are millions of square miles of desert populated by a few cows so the private land owners can keep calling their land a "working ranch" and thereby avoid paying proper property tax.

Your sig line about 800 miles of singletrack...not going to happen anywhere but in the mountain west.

Which government is more for the people? BLM that uses a meager staff to keep millions of acres of public lands open to all the public, or a government that subsidizes millions of acres of land to a few wealthy land owners whose biggest complaint is how expensive it is to fence in all their land.
Does this mean you don't support the Utard Legislature in their lawsuit to take over the BLM/Federal land here? Blasphemy boyo!

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Old 07-12-2012, 08:35 AM   #18094
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So you don't think that if the state of utah takes it all over, we won't end up just like Texas? -al
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:33 AM   #18095
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Utard legislature just wants to open it up to big industry. Unfortunately also the guys pumping thousands into their pockets. I actually agree that there needs to be more drilling, can't stand SUWA personally even though I believe that some lands do need to be protected even from oil and gas here and there. The issue with SUWA is their budget and organization and jobs are gone if they were to actually ever compromise and solve the problem by creating low impact drilling in approved areas, and allow for recreation in places. They use the extreme places of off road damage to justify closing hundreds or thousands or millions of acres of areas where there is no damage and never will be...

Anyway, Hick I hear you though on private land. that is the way the North East is too. If we were all in New England (like all of hte NE ADV riders) we would be going to the grocery store to look cool only. The only adventures are dirt roads and long slab rides, or going up to Canada where Utah-like wilderness and access still exists. It is super sad...
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:55 AM   #18096
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I'm sure one of the major theme parks will come to the rescue with a virtual reality ride
that lets you experience any ADV thing you want.

Kinda like the ending of Soylent Green or how Walrus has sex.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:58 PM   #18097
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Was I just baited? Dang I'm so easy. -al
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:06 PM   #18098
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Hey Hick,

Utah is making it's best impression of Texas. Except here, we have rich Canadian real estate fucks lining the pockets of Utard feds to FORCE the forest service to sell public land to a private, Canadian entity so they can build a worthless gondola from The Canyons to Solitude.

This is all going down in the SHITHOLE otherwise known as Canyons Ski Resort.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:04 PM   #18099
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maybe...

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This is all going down in the SHITHOLE otherwise known as Canyons Ski Resort.
ParkWest (1985!) aka the Canyons just needs a nuclear powered snow machine to cover the runs and they'll be fine... awesome resort (in 1985!) if there was enough snow, but luckily they'll be ok cuz there's so many people that can blow $70 dollars for a days riding in our current economy

by the way, the new built xr400 is on KSL/enduro now that i got the hose out and my grrrrrl's sweet enjoyment of the San Rafael Swell isn't translating into more desire to ride... brshooter's bike for the same price, but totally trick.
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:58 AM   #18100
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Newsweek recently ran an article that showed a 4-way graph of tax burden by state. It included personal tax, corporate tax, income tax, and sales tax. In general, the redder the state, the more heavily was the personal income and sales tax, whereas the corporate and property tax was least. The bluer the state, the heavier the corporate and property tax burden.

Texas' tax structure was attractive (in my opinion) because the property tax burden was greater than the income tax burden, and they rely heavily on sales tax (in my opinion, the more you consume, the more you should pay). However, when time to collect on property tax, there are so many subsidies for corporations and mega-"ranches" that the individual property tax is where the majority of revenue is generated. Fortune 500 companies don't move to states where the tax burden for the company and the worker are equitable. The non-corporate property tax in Texas is a farce as all one needs to do to claim themselves as a "working ranch" is keep a few head of cattle on the land; and thereby avoid a large part of their property tax burden. Ranches that are thousands of acres may pay less than I on property tax if they raise a few cattle, and grow some cotton.

The reason I moved from Utah to Texas was that I had become disgusted with the Californication of the Wasatch Front. Higher cost of living coincident with a lower quality of life. In the race to attract corporate jobs, Utah has sold its soul. Drive through Colorado, and you will see Utah's future.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:31 AM   #18101
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Newsweek recently ran an article that showed a 4-way graph of tax burden by state. It included personal tax, corporate tax, income tax, and sales tax. In general, the redder the state, the more heavily was the personal income and sales tax, whereas the corporate and property tax was least. The bluer the state, the heavier the corporate and property tax burden.

Texas' tax structure was attractive (in my opinion) because the property tax burden was greater than the income tax burden, and they rely heavily on sales tax (in my opinion, the more you consume, the more you should pay). However, when time to collect on property tax, there are so many subsidies for corporations and mega-"ranches" that the individual property tax is where the majority of revenue is generated. Fortune 500 companies don't move to states where the tax burden for the company and the worker are equitable. The non-corporate property tax in Texas is a farce as all one needs to do to claim themselves as a "working ranch" is keep a few head of cattle on the land; and thereby avoid a large part of their property tax burden. Ranches that are thousands of acres may pay less than I on property tax if they raise a few cattle, and grow some cotton.

The reason I moved from Utah to Texas was that I had become disgusted with the Californication of the Wasatch Front. Higher cost of living coincident with a lower quality of life. In the race to attract corporate jobs, Utah has sold its soul. Drive through Colorado, and you will see Utah's future.
I thought it was because you sold your soul for a better paying job. It's cool, I did too.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:23 AM   #18102
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The reason I moved from Utah to Texas was that I had become disgusted with the Californication of the Wasatch Front. Higher cost of living coincident with a lower quality of life. In the race to attract corporate jobs, Utah has sold its soul. Drive through Colorado, and you will see Utah's future.
True, but Utah still kicks ass. And no matter how fucked up it gets, it will still be a cooler place to live than any other place I can imagine (in regards to skiing, moto, 4x4, climbing, whatever). Housing, for the most part, is cheap. Where else can you live at the base of the mountains on my salary?

Plus, Pluric and GISkev live here, which in itself makes it entertaining.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:45 AM   #18103
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The reason I moved from Utah to Texas was that I had become disgusted with the Californication of the Wasatch Front. Higher cost of living coincident with a lower quality of life. In the race to attract corporate jobs, Utah has sold its soul. Drive through Colorado, and you will see Utah's future.
I think you had one more reason to move.... you really wanted your inner self to be free.

You're with your own now Hick, is that Freebird playing the background???

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Old 07-13-2012, 02:26 PM   #18104
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Next Friday!

Next Friday (or maybe Sat) morning I take off for San Diego, either hwy 89 through zion or out the PET depending on forecasted temps... tag along for part or all.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:07 PM   #18105
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Countdown a week and a half for me. Doing a solo Idaho dirt mosey on the mighty 250. Eleven days. Visit a couple friends along the way in Smiths Ferry and near Orofino. I have a general plan but fires could alter them. Right now it looks like there are 4 or 5 fires along my way. I was thinking I'd start out on the PET and head north thru Bendover but if it's 100 degrees I might just go north right away. -al
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