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Old 09-27-2009, 09:52 PM   #4051
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Fj?: Mineral Fork is an out n back... Hick has pics...

here's some of the video, but YouTube degrades the quality a lot...

dirtydiesel and giskev SWEET fu$&ing pics and clips. That looks like one hell of a great ride.
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:53 PM   #4052
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My XR650 needs new rings before we head to Moab on Cololumbus Day weekend...
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Old 09-27-2009, 10:18 PM   #4053
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GPS tracks

Would you have GPS tracks?

Maybe we could fit in a ride on the way to Moab.

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Old 09-28-2009, 05:01 AM   #4054
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You are really making me wish I had invested in a helmet cam before taking my trip. The photos I have show the beauty of the environment, but not how great the riding was.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:03 AM   #4055
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My XR650 needs new rings before we head to Moab on Cololumbus Day weekend...
If you have the engine disassembled and the parts in hand, call Lindsay Machine Racing, and see what they will charge to do the work. They let me stand at the bench while their tech did the work, and I learned a shitload about thumpers.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:07 AM   #4056
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I rebuilt my 250x about 1,800 miles ago. New head, valves, piston, rings. I used the green Scotch Brite pads to "hone" my cylinder per all the discussions on Thumpertalk and CRF's only. You spray carb cleaner on the Scotch Brite pad, then rub the cylinder, following the crosshatch in both directions. Do this over and over again, until you can feel the cylinder wall honing (assuming the cross-hatch pattern is still in good shape). Then wash in warm soapy water, let it dry, clean the cylinder wall with brake cleaner until a paper towel comes out clean.

Pay attention to ring orientation when you put new rings on your new piston. Your manual should show proper orientation. Also replace the piston pin, piston clips, and the jug and head gaskets while you have it apart.

Rebuild it with just a tiny bit of oil on the rings using non-synthetic oil. Take it out for break in somewhere with a good long hill. Warm the bike up, and FUCKING PUNCH IT up hill, then turn around and FUCKING PUNCH IT DOWNHILL with hard compression breaking. Do this for 15 minutes, let it cool, repeat once or twice. You will see the rings seating, as the first break in you will be burning oil on the descent, then you should see it clear up as the rings seat. Don't be a pussy when you break it in. Trust me, I learned the hard way and had to rebuild my motor twice.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:33 AM   #4057
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Rebuild...

Thanks for all the pointers. Dirty-Diesel knows bikes, so i won't be taking it to any shop, but sounds like Hick's got a good one!

We're just putting new rings in. The cylinder and piston look fine, with the cross hatching intact and the piston has the expected subtle hatching from when it was machined.

TrackHead: I'll be sure to ask DD about the break in that you mention... would i need to do that just for new rings?

Fjr Eh: got tracks, will travel... when are you headed to Moab?
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:50 AM   #4058
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An XR with a Pluric pilot might not make it... just kidding, he rides like a bad ass even if he is gettin a little soft!
Damn it! I knew my wife couldn't keep a secret.
Besides you guys and the whole internet, who else knows?
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:12 AM   #4059
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TrackHead: I'll be sure to ask DD about the break in that you mention... would i need to do that just for new rings?
Yes, because the new rings technically need to seat to your cylinder wall. You might as well put in a new piston while you are there, no reason not too, especially if the 'skirt' of the piston is showing signs of wear.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:27 AM   #4060
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Nice Shots

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Had a blast! New helmet cam worked great.







Thanks Kev! Once again you are the tour master
Cant wait till we go to Moab
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:49 AM   #4061
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Fjr Eh: got tracks, will travel... when are you headed to Moab?
We're leaving Vancouver on Oct 13th and need to be back for the 23rd.
We should be in Salt Lake in two days. We're planning to take a spin on the flats on the am of the third day. We should be in moab for 7 days or so, through the weekend of Oct 17-18.

We're flexible.
If there was a ride or two we could hook up with (local knowledge), we like to join in.
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:44 AM   #4062
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Yes, because the new rings technically need to seat to your cylinder wall. You might as well put in a new piston while you are there, no reason not too, especially if the 'skirt' of the piston is showing signs of wear.
We'll definately do the scotchbright hone to the niksil but his piston looks brand new with no skirt wear and mic's out good.. So just a set of rings should do.
I agree with the hard run ring seating method. Works great!
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:21 PM   #4063
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We're flexible.
If there was a ride or two we could hook up with (local knowledge), we like to join in.
Keep an eye on this thread for local (and loco) rides. I can recommend some sweet big-bike friendly rides if you want to get out of Moab.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:17 PM   #4064
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My XR650 needs new rings before we head to Moab on Cololumbus Day weekend...
Oh. That looks familiar. Must be in the watter.

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Old 09-28-2009, 07:55 PM   #4065
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Trail 040 by Tibble Fk Res

Hey everyone, if you've ridden from Tibble Fk Reservoir toward Cascade Springs road, in American Fork Canyon, you know there's lotsa really good single track.

Trail 040 from Tibble Fork Reservoir to the ridge trail (157) is getting really buggered up. You gotta ride straight up the fall-line. Forty-five degree slopes, nasty rocks, roots and lots of step-ups. Its a blast!

But we thought you should know -- our stimulus money is being used to build a new trail with several switchbacks to bypass the nasty. I mean it looks practically ATV-worthy.

So this is your last chance to ride the root-rock-knarl that is Trail 040. Have a blast!

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