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Old 01-18-2011, 09:19 PM   #11881
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Bummer as well. What happened/s for me is called Thoracic output syndromewhich is also common for moto riders. It gets your whole arm with falling asleep and pain in your arms. Directly related to riding MTBs. Interestingly the best thing that helped it was just getting a better fork more than anything else... :)


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That sucks.

I had about 18 months of pretty bad ulnar groove neuropathy that was much worse from mtn biking, and less so from moto. I quit riding bikes, rode motos less, slept with my arm straight, and presto......gone. But for whatever reason, the position on my mtn bike really irritates it.

I had tennis elbow pretty bad this spring and summer as well. It was really painful and almost impossible for me to pull the clutch in on the moto after a long day of riding. That too went away with rest this fall.

I had to hang my arm and try to relax it as much as possible during rides. That helped during the ride. That, and of course, enough NSAIDS to keep me happy.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:51 PM   #11882
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Handlebar Palsy

We're getting old!

My ring and pinky fingers go to sleep when I'm asleep... I try to sleep with my arms straight and it seems to help. I "tennis elbow" when you extend you arm and it feels like your elbow gets electrocuted? if so, i have that too.


FROG: I'm chekcing alternatives from Cherry Creek to Delta and understand you've got a way... I've done so, but am interested in alt routes.

I'm scoping a route from 5mile to St.George via Way West Dez... If i do that, i'll just ride to 5 mile and call SLC2StG... I did SLC to Cedar a few springs ago, but it wasn't Way West, just Half Way.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:44 AM   #11883
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We're getting old!

My ring and pinky fingers go to sleep when I'm asleep... I try to sleep with my arms straight and it seems to help. I "tennis elbow" when you extend you arm and it feels like your elbow gets electrocuted? if so, i have that too.
No, your ring and pinky finger falling asleep when you are asleep is the result of your ulnar nerve being pinched, probably from inflammation/swelling after overuse during the day. Tennis elbow is swelling where the extensor muscles of the forearem insert on the radial epicondyle (bony protuberance).

Thoracic outlet syndrome is caused by impingement of a big neurovascular bundle (brachial plexus) as it leaves the thorax (chest) heading toward the arm. Think of your wiring harness - that is like a nervous plexus. If something is putting pressure on a nerve or nervous plexus, the result is tingling, numbness, or palsy/paralysis.

Overuse or repetitive actions result in swelling (inflammation) to tendons, muscles, ligaments, and periosteum (thin wrapping around bones). The inflammation itself is painful, but may also apply pressure to nearby nerves. If the inflammation is chronic (long-standing), it can actually begin to erode and damage muscles, tendons, ligaments, periosteum, and bone. This is what happens in tennis elbow.

I may not know shite about re-jetting a carb, but I got me some lernin' bout dokterin.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:59 AM   #11884
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I'm scoping a route from 5mile to St.George via Way West Dez... If i do that, i'll just ride to 5 mile and call SLC2StG... I did SLC to Cedar a few springs ago, but it wasn't Way West, just Half Way.

I'm doing that route March 12th, in the Samurai, with the wife and dog. Stopping by Wheeler/Notch Peak/Cathedral Gorge, then following the UT/NV border and slipping into St. George via the back door. The route is just under 400 miles.

After that we are doing another 1000 miles around S. Utah, no doubt at a snails pace.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:37 AM   #11885
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I'm doing that route March 12th, in the Samurai, with the wife and dog. Stopping by Wheeler/Notch Peak/Cathedral Gorge, then following the UT/NV border and slipping into St. George via the back door. The route is just under 400 miles.

After that we are doing another 1000 miles around S. Utah, no doubt at a snails pace.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:16 AM   #11886
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Welcome to Rhino World.

My Samurai is probably even slower than your Rhino......but it's street legal.

Does that thing have locking differentials?
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:33 AM   #11887
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My Samurai is probably even slower than your Rhino......but it's street legal.

Does that thing have locking differentials?
Check the lower left side of the Rhino, plated, inspected and insured.
I did it to do short street runs and White Rim Trail must be plated.

It does have push button 2 wheel 4 wheel and locking differential.
Clutch mod and CDI box let it top out about 50. You better pay attention
at that speed, they handle like a KLR.

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Old 01-19-2011, 07:55 AM   #11888
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Check the lower left side of the Rhino, plated, inspected and insured.
I did it to do short street runs and White Rim Trail must be plated.

It does have push button 2 wheel 4 wheel and locking differential.
Clutch mod and CDI box let it top out about 50. You better pay attention
at that speed, they handle like a KLR.

My Dad's buddy has a street legal Razr. He must have 20K invested in that thing.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:02 AM   #11889
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Check the lower left side of the Rhino, plated, inspected and insured.
I did it to do short street runs and White Rim Trail must be plated.

It does have push button 2 wheel 4 wheel and locking differential.
Clutch mod and CDI box let it top out about 50. You better pay attention
at that speed, they handle like a KLR.
UTV's are street legal everywhere in Utah on roads with speeds less than ???? and not legal in SL County, right?
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:38 AM   #11890
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For mountain bikes and skinny tire bikes, body positioning is a huge factor, stem legnth and angle as well as seat position at a minimum. A fork should help but there are other things that should help better.

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Bummer as well. What happened/s for me is called Thoracic output syndromewhich is also common for moto riders. It gets your whole arm with falling asleep and pain in your arms. Directly related to riding MTBs. Interestingly the best thing that helped it was just getting a better fork more than anything else... :)
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:38 AM   #11891
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UTV's are street legal everywhere in Utah on roads with speeds less than ???? and not legal in SL County, right?
They are not street legal out of the box. Everyone I've seen needs
horn, turn signals, rear and side mirrors added. I think they all have
brake lights. Towns around the Piute trail tend to look the other way
on ATVs and UTVs.

As far as SL County as long as it is inspected, plated and insured I
don't know what complaint would be.

I give neighborhood kids rides (watch it) so I wanted a little protection
from the law if pulled over. At the lake I've ridden it into town for gas and
to get to trail heads with no problem so far.

The street eats the tires alive. I bought extra wheels to mount street tires on, just haven't got around to it yet.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:41 AM   #11892
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This is pretty cool. What does it cost ya on to insure it?

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Check the lower left side of the Rhino, plated, inspected and insured.
I did it to do short street runs and White Rim Trail must be plated.

It does have push button 2 wheel 4 wheel and locking differential.
Clutch mod and CDI box let it top out about 50. You better pay attention
at that speed, they handle like a KLR.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:49 AM   #11893
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My Dad's buddy has a street legal Razr. He must have 20K invested in that thing.
It's easy to do. Some of the really decked out ones are $25-30K.

I wanted more of the utility style for camping and playing. (Never camped once)

My son is trying to convince me I need a Razor S.

Hmmmm.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:51 AM   #11894
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This is pretty cool. What does it cost ya on to insure it?
Just liability is about $100 a year. I do get a group discount.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:56 AM   #11895
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I'm doing that route March 12th, in the Samurai, with the wife and dog. Stopping by Wheeler/Notch Peak/Cathedral Gorge, then following the UT/NV border and slipping into St. George via the back door. The route is just under 400 miles.

After that we are doing another 1000 miles around S. Utah, no doubt at a snails pace.
Was that an offer to cache some gas cans? You could hide them really well and get the GPS coords!
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