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Old 08-25-2012, 08:51 PM   #7366
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OK, I defer to all the smarter people here. Have a chance to buy an 03 640, 21k, Scotts steering, cases, everything reported to be in good shape and bike looks clean!! Asking is $4099, what say you?
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:07 PM   #7367
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OK, I defer to all the smarter people here. Have a chance to buy an 03 640, 21k, Scotts steering, cases, everything reported to be in good shape and bike looks clean!! Asking is $4099, what say you?
I would but it might need a waterpump and cam follower rebuildASAP, check the sprockets and chain and tires, IS THE OIL CLEAN, or does it look like chocolate milk?

All the engines are noisey, arrive early and see how it starts cold, ask about the battery.

Buy it anyway, what cases...Touratechs are worth a grand.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:02 AM   #7368
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I would have thought $4099 was cheap, even for the US. Great bike, great model. I'd buy another.
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:24 AM   #7369
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does anyone here know how many needle bearings are in a cam roller? We've found 14 so far, does it make sense to replace both of them?
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:46 AM   #7370
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does anyone here know how many needle bearings are in a cam roller? We've found 14 so far, does it make sense to replace both of them?
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I took a closer look at the camshaft area and was able to pull those pieces. This is good news, sort of... I now have about 12 of the needles accounted for. I counted that a new intake roller has 16 needles. The corner of the roller mounting tab is almost a perfect fit onto the rocker arm. This means that it has not rattled around inside the engine for very long, and conversely, there isn't much metal flakes in circulation from that.
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:22 AM   #7371
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:52 AM   #7372
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thanks guys, Tseta, excellent thread you put up from your rebuild. It didn't look like the exhaust roller pin wanted to come out easily? I'll look at it again when I go back to the shop, it would definitely make it cheaper. Reading your thread makes me want to look at doing a little porting and polishing while it's open, a little polishing at the very least. Time is an issue though as I'm hoping to be getting out on a trip in a few weeks
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:01 AM   #7373
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thanks guys, Tseta, excellent thread you put up from your rebuild. It didn't look like the exhaust roller pin wanted to come out easily? I'll look at it again when I go back to the shop, it would definitely make it cheaper. Reading your thread makes me want to look at doing a little porting and polishing while it's open, a little polishing at the very least. Time is an issue though as I'm hoping to be getting out on a trip in a few weeks
The pin roller presses pretty easy in and out if you use vice and some proper size metric sockets like a press. Eventually You can use a Dremmel rotary to cautiously "open" the "flat" edges of the old pin. But I guess press out is not longer your problem if you have to collect the pin rollers from inside of the engine. :)
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:11 AM   #7374
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The pin roller presses pretty easy in and out if you use vice and some proper size metric sockets like a press. Eventually You can use a Dremmel rotary to cautiously "open" the "flat" edges of the old pin. But I guess press out is not longer your problem if you have to collect the pin rollers from inside of the engine. :)
I was thinking that maybe I should replace the exhaust side now too?
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Old 08-26-2012, 10:52 AM   #7375
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The pin roller presses pretty easy in and out if you use vice and some proper size metric sockets like a press. Eventually You can use a Dremmel rotary to cautiously "open" the "flat" edges of the old pin. But I guess press out is not longer your problem if you have to collect the pin rollers from inside of the engine. :)
When I did both of mine, they pressed in and out very easy using sockets and a vice. Peened then with a centre punch. I also did the water pump at the same. They did provide one wrong bearing with my pump parts, but I wasn't too worried about using one of the old ones. If you don't have some already, get yourself some anaerobic sealant. Loctite 518, Permatex Flange sealant, or Würth Flange sealant. I have experience with the latter 2, and all three are anaerobic, and have sealed everything from KTM rocker boxes to VW split engine cases.
You can also avoid this yucky mess, since it requires so little, and doesn't dry until everything is bolt down tight.

Kind of a chicken/ egg situation, but if it only dries with the lack of O2, why doesn't it harden in the tube
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:43 PM   #7376
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When I did both of mine, they pressed in and out very easy using sockets and a vice. Peened then with a centre punch. I also did the water pump at the same. They did provide one wrong bearing with my pump parts, but I wasn't too worried about using one of the old ones. If you don't have some already, get yourself some anaerobic sealant. Loctite 518, Permatex Flange sealant, or Würth Flange sealant. I have experience with the latter 2, and all three are anaerobic, and have sealed everything from KTM rocker boxes to VW split engine cases.
You can also avoid this yucky mess, since it requires so little, and doesn't dry until everything is bolt down tight.

Kind of a chicken/ egg situation, but if it only dries with the lack of O2, why doesn't it harden in the tube
Ok, I get you. I think I'll order two new ones and give a try to press out the other one tomorrow. I definitely don't want to forget anything and have to order twice. That and a new countershaft sprocket seal.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:57 PM   #7377
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I was thinking that maybe I should replace the exhaust side now too?

I rebuilt my water pump and replaced both cams as preventive maintenance at 25k miles. Have slightly over 30k now and going strong.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:59 PM   #7378
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By the by, has anyone fitted a 120x80 rear on the beast before? Got one sitting around and I am to cheap to let it go to waste
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Old 08-26-2012, 04:07 PM   #7379
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I rebuilt my water pump and replaced both cams as preventive maintenance at 25k miles. Have slightly over 30k now and going strong.
good thought, what's involved in a water pump rebuild?
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Old 08-26-2012, 04:35 PM   #7380
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good thought, what's involved in a water pump rebuild?
Looking at the fiche, 2 bearings, 2 o-rings, a seal, and the cover gasket. Here is a guide that I used.
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