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Old 02-15-2014, 12:39 AM   #1
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50/50 Tyres DR650

Ok people time to replace my Heidenau K60 rear was 130/80 - 17 after this next ride it will roughly have 7000kms on her, which I think is not to bad.

Will a 140/80 - 17 fit on the rear of a DR650? and if it would does the Heidenau in this size have the strip down the middle like in the picture?

What are peoples thoughts would be good for first hand knowledge on the below tyres.


Heidenau K60



Dunlop 605



Mitas E-07



Kenda K270



Metzeler Sahara Enduro 3



Bridgestone TW302

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Old 02-15-2014, 02:11 AM   #2
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I use the E07 on my bigger bike, great wearing, a little on the road side of a 50/50 but for bigger bike easy adventure rides very good

I've had the Kenda and the only thing I can say is slippery as all shit on wet bitumen.

Out of those on a DR I'd go the E07 or TW302, depending on which side of 50/50 you'd like to be, you haven't mentioned what riding you would mainly do on them.
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Old 02-15-2014, 03:17 AM   #3
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you haven't mentioned what riding you would mainly do on them.
Shit thought I had lol

We do 2 - 4 day rides as much dirt as we can...how ever to get from my place to Boonah where we normally start our rides is 100kms of tar each way so maybe 80 dirt and 20 tar roughly


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Old 02-15-2014, 03:56 AM   #4
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Don't under estimate the awesomeness of an old cheap d606. $120.00 grip on dirt is better than those mentioned and grips amazingly really well on tar. Just gotta change them a little more often.
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:46 AM   #5
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I have never had any issues with the Mitas E07, they do tend to crack along the edge of the centre strip but not an issue and about 8000 km gets them to the level of the centre strip but for legality there is still another 4000 left in them so if you wear them all the way you will get 12000 or so.
I find the front E07 better in sand (surprisingly good) than the D605.
Kenda 270 rears wear fairly quickly, Kenda 270 fronts are horrible for cornering as they want to hold up then drop over to the next row of Knobs (CRAP).
D605 rear only goes up to a 4.6*17 which is narrower than standard.
I was thinking about the Heidenau myself after reading reports of high mileage but was being put off by reports of them being slippery on wet tar. Maybe they are different compound for the big bikes. How much tread is left at 7000?
My riding is mostly mixed road touring and for that I like the E07s but was looking for longer wear for a bigger trip later in the year.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:45 PM   #6
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Old 02-15-2014, 01:20 PM   #7
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Don't under estimate the awesomeness of an old cheap d606. $120.00 grip on dirt is better than those mentioned and grips amazingly really well on tar. Just gotta change them a little more often.

Gotta agree with ya there Quirky, used one on my old XS650 - about 240kg bike
'Kenny' luved that tyre, very sure-footed in every situation except the wet clay going into the 'Dargo High Plains' Rally,

Torential downpour near Orbost going home didn't faze it on tar,

as you say $120 tyre is a bargain if I can get 5-6k outa one on the arse
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Old 02-15-2014, 02:11 PM   #8
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Have kenda k270 on rear,just over 4000k on it,probably 1000 left.TOO SQUIRMY on tar corners!! soft edge knobs,won't buy another.Have ordered a michelin t63.
have a mitas xt644 on front,1300k so far,good tar/dirt tyre.
got 8450k out of a mitas eo7 rear,good tyre.no confidence in the e07 front on dirt,too much unintentional driftin'changed to a 606,got 8500k out of it, good tar/dirt tyre.
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Old 02-15-2014, 05:58 PM   #9
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Just about farked a T63 on the rear, 4000km on it, mostly tar (90%). I only put it on as l picked it up for $95, and wasn't too concerned about wear.

As mentioned, the D606 is a great tyre, for straight dirt and yes it sticks well on tar, but l only manage around 4k out of them.

However, next tyre is an E07, 130/80-17, l got 15,000km out of my last one, as a 50/50 tyre you can't beat them.
As much as l like to think l am going to just ride dirt, realistically; there always ends up 'transport' sections on the blacktop (unless you trailer the bike), l know that there are a few on here that have endless dirt right from their backdoor, but most would have to take in some tar on their adventure.

Oh, l am on a DR650.

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Old 02-15-2014, 07:22 PM   #10
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Just about farked a T63 on the rear, 4000km on it, mostly tar (90%). I only put it on as l picked it up for $95, and wasn't too concerned about wear.

As mentioned, the D606 is a great tyre, for straight dirt and yes it sticks well on tar, but l only manage around 4k out of them.

However, next tyre is an E07, 130/80-17, l got 15,000km out of my last one, as a 50/50 tyre you can't beat them.
As much as l like to think l am going to just ride dirt, realistically; there always ends up 'transport' sections on the blacktop (unless you trailer the bike), l know that there are a few on here that have endless dirt right from their backdoor, but most would have to take in some tar on their adventure.

Oh, l am on a DR650.

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What range of pressures are you using in the 606 rear to get to 4K ?

I've used a few 606's and find them pretty much gone for dirt grip at 2K - ok for riding to work for another 1-1.5K till they're a slick.
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:31 PM   #11
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Hi Dobbo,

What range of pressures are you using in the 606 rear to get to 4K ?

I've used a few 606's and find them pretty much gone for dirt grip at 2K - ok for riding to work for another 1-1.5K till they're a slick.
Yea im only getting may 3k from a 606 rear, yes I know they are a good tyre

Will the a 140/80 - 17 fit a DR stock rim?

Thanks for the replies so far guys....it all helps
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:50 PM   #12
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Hi Dobbo,

What range of pressures are you using in the 606 rear to get to 4K ?

I've used a few 606's and find them pretty much gone for dirt grip at 2K - ok for riding to work for another 1-1.5K till they're a slick.

I rechecked my log book for the km's of my last D606 on the rear and found l got closer to 5k, fitted to my DR.
As with all my tyres fitted to my DR, l run 22psi front (sometimes up to 25, if l know l am on tar for a bit), on the rear, l run 24/25 psi. Not ideal for dirt, but as l said, l always seem to travel more tar than planned.

I have always had an MT21 on the front, but will be going with something a bit more road biased. Probably just go with E07's on the rear from now on, as l hate riding down tar on knobbies, just knowing l am chewing them up for nothing.
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I rechecked my log book for the km's of my last D606 on the rear and found l got closer to 5k, fitted to my DR.
As with all my tyres fitted to my DR, l run 22psi front (sometimes up to 25, if l know l am on tar for a bit), on the rear, l run 24/25 psi. Not ideal for dirt, but as l said, l always seem to travel more tar than planned.

I have always had an MT21 on the front, but will be going with something a bit more road biased. Probably just go with E07's on the rear from now on, as l hate riding down tar on knobbies, just knowing l am chewing them up for nothing.
That's about the same as I run for most riding too. Is much of your riding flatish terrain ?
Most of my riding is hilly so the rear is always trying to shred itself. Thats the only reason I can see for my shortish tyre life as I ride pretty smoothly with the throttle.

I too run a MT21 on the front. Good tyre that makes even more noise than the 606 rear !
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:14 PM   #14
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I prefer the EO9 against the EO7.
EO7 can be tricky on wet tar but then so can anything.
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Old 02-16-2014, 12:59 AM   #15
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I recently fitted a TW 302 after thinking they looked like a good 50/50 tyre.

I had four flat tyres in the one day after fitting the tyre & heading out on a 600km ride.
After the 3rd flat i took the wheel to the bike shop thinking it must be me pinching the tube somehow.The shop checked the tyre & rim for anything that would be cousing the flats...nothing.Anyway all fixed, thought i better turn back & head home, 200km later another flat,WTF? I hate this tyre,it's cursed.

Got home & fitted an E07 which i have been happy with in the past,no probs since.

I still don't know the reason for the flats,i ditched the TW 302.
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