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Old 11-20-2014, 10:11 PM   #1
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Choice between engines

I'm looking at two bikes but to make it more interesting I'd like to offer up just the engines and see what you think.

First choice is triumph 955i probably the one I'll go with, but from 2001 to 2006

Second choice and a long shot from left field is the 904cc air cooled ducati with fuel injection, this model is a 1999

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Old 11-20-2014, 11:59 PM   #2
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Triumph triple any day of the week. Had two and loved em.
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Old 11-21-2014, 06:37 AM   #3
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Both are sweet engines. Very different characteristics, but very nice. Plenty of usable torque and an oh-so-sweet engine sound from either one.

I am currently in the Ducati boat, but if I can find a good deal on a Street Triple R I would jump into that boat in a heartbeat.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:16 AM   #4
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That Duc engine is in my Cagiva and I love it.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:36 AM   #5
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Both engines will delight but they are completely different in character.

My 95 old 900 Ducati was carbed but the EFI ones also feel somewhat coarse below 4 grand in the higher gears and will snatch. Four thou and up is bliss but over time the poor low rpm behavior got on my nerves but lots of owners have no issues with this. Vibration is the kind that feels involving and does not grate.

Servicing is straightforward but valve adjustments are more difficult initially but once you master the dark art it becomes a very satisfying event that you actually look forward to. Sound and feel of course is superb but...

The triple sound to my ears is even more intoxicating especially with aftermarket pipes. It sounds coarse at idle but smooths out at speed.

Tuning of the 955i fuel injection can be done by downloading a free program and purchasing a special cable that hooks up to the ECU. Mine is a 99. Above 01 is a different engine. The valve adjustment is no longer a matter of using a tool because in order to re shim you will need to pop the cams but it is not that big a deal.

Once you get the technique down the Ducati is easier and less time consuming to service. With the trumpet you need to remove a lot of real estate to get access.

Both engines are very satisfying.
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Old 11-21-2014, 02:55 PM   #6
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The Triumph triple has performance in the bag though I personally feel the air-cooled Ducati twin easily beats it in beauty of design and sound. I miss mine.
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Old 11-22-2014, 04:39 PM   #7
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90 twins are fun, and sound cool, but the howl from that triple is just a cut above. The ergos on a tiger are good also. I put on lowering pegs, bar risers and protapers. More fun than one should be allowed to have on a sub 5k bike.
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Old 11-22-2014, 05:40 PM   #8
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Love my 900ss motor but no experience on the triple. One day I'll own a girly tiger. I really like the bike and the sound. There were some issues on the 900 with head bolts, so do a little research there to make sure you don't buy a bum motor.
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Old 11-22-2014, 06:29 PM   #9
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Triumph all day long. I had a 955i with 25k miles on it, never had a single problem with that bike. Not even so much as a leaky fork seal. It was a sweet bike and had an awesome character when accelerating.
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Old 11-22-2014, 08:32 PM   #10
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I have had both. I like both and both have lots of character but are very different. My short answer is that the Triumph triple is the best all around sporty road bike engine that I have ever experienced in 38 yrs riding >20 bikes owned.
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:28 PM   #11
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Just to clarify I never said these were "road" bikes.

Actually looking at a tiger or a gran canyon.

Guess I could put this over in the beast section but was more interested in the engine per se then the whole package.
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:46 PM   #12
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I worked in a Triumph/Ducati/Moto Guzzi dealership back when those bikes were new. I rode the 955 Daytonas, I rode the Ducati Monsters and Supersports, I rode the Guzzis.

On one particular day, one of the owners and I took a demo 955 Daytona and a '99 Supersport on a 400 mile lunch ride in The Ozarks to do a back to back comparison.

While the Triumph Daytona 955 is a fine motorcycle, I just never really liked the bikes. Tank too wide between my knees. Odd peg and bar locations (for me). The engine and transmission are sweet, and the bikes handle well. Our dealership owned a CMRA endurance racer and sponsored a race team in '99. They did real well with the bike.

For me, the Ducati Supersport is one of those perfect sporting motorcycles. Light, Narrow, Wonderful Engine, good handling, FUN to ride. I put a couple thousand miles on that '99 Supersport 900 and really enjoyed it.

I've also put in some time on the Monsters. Great bikes.

I'd pick the Ducati without a second thought...
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:46 PM   #13
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Just to clarify I never said these were "road" bikes.

Actually looking at a tiger or a gran canyon.

Guess I could put this over in the beast section but was more interested in the engine per se then the whole package.
Well, that kind of changes things.

Get the Tiger.
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Old 11-26-2014, 10:53 AM   #14
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I've never owned a triple, but the air-cooled Ducati is fantastic. I love that engine.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:48 AM   #15
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Both engines will delight but they are completely different in character.

My 95 old 900 Ducati was carbed but the EFI ones also feel somewhat coarse below 4 grand in the higher gears and will snatch. Four thou and up is bliss but over time the poor low rpm behavior got on my nerves but lots of owners have no issues with this. Vibration is the kind that feels involving and does not grate.

Servicing is straightforward but valve adjustments are more difficult initially but once you master the dark art it becomes a very satisfying event that you actually look forward to. Sound and feel of course is superb but...

The triple sound to my ears is even more intoxicating especially with aftermarket pipes. It sounds coarse at idle but smooths out at speed.

Tuning of the 955i fuel injection can be done by downloading a free program and purchasing a special cable that hooks up to the ECU. Mine is a 99. Above 01 is a different engine. The valve adjustment is no longer a matter of using a tool because in order to re shim you will need to pop the cams but it is not that big a deal.

Once you get the technique down the Ducati is easier and less time consuming to service. With the trumpet you need to remove a lot of real estate to get access.

Both engines are very satisfying.
I put 78,000 trouble free miles on an '01 955 Tiger and am currently putting miles on an '06 Tiger. Fantastic do-it-all bikes (motor) I highly recommend. As for the valve adjustments for the '01 thru '06 models... they are shim over bucket design so pulling the cams is not necessary if you want to use "the tool".
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