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Old 12-29-2005, 12:01 PM   #76
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I've got the helmetcamera.com cameras. I like the added protection of the aluminum housing that the camera itself fits into. I've used a bunch of 'em professionally for the past 3 years, no failures of any type, and that includes some rough handling. However, I do my own cable work and beef up the battery systems; only the camera and mic are stock.

The low res camera is fine for most work. The high res camera is better, of course, but if you're in a money crunch you won't be unhappy with the low res model. What you will have to play with a bit is high contrast situations, like the typical ride framing of road/sky, but once you get that figured out, it's a "fit and forget" camera.

I tend to use inexpensive Digital 8 cameras for acquisition, though I"ve used 'em with MiniDV rigs, both prosumer and professional.

Both are good companies, though. No complaints from my friends that use Viosport...though, like me, they ruggedize their gear before using it.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:47 PM   #77
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I've also got the helmetcamera.com set-up which I've enjoyed for a couple years. I've run it offroad in CO and NC without problems, to include a couple getoffs. Keeps on ticking.

I'll second photog's comments about beefing up the areas she mentioned, as the only problem I've had was with the 8xAA battery holder which eventually cracked (due to cold more than stress). It looks like a generic unit which can be replaced anywhere (Radio Shack, et al) or beefed up at home if you've got the workshop skills.

Bottomline: I like mine and would purchase another.


Now the real headache is the editing.... ouch! That's where the real time, money, and effort are spent.
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:16 PM   #78
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I'm using a helmetcamera.com with the rugged aluminum enclosure. If you are going to use it in conjunction with a camcorder, I highly recommend you use the LANC (pronounced LAN-CEE) remote control, for the rider, it gives you total control over the operation of the camcorder, including turning it on and off, pausing, recording, low battery warning and tape is almost out warnings, all with the push of ONE button, and an LED that changes colors and flashes. I think only Sony and Canon make LANC compatible camcorders. Helmetcamera.com sells the LANC remote control
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:55 PM   #79
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Yep, the LANC is the way to go. I'm running a Sony camera so it works great, and the LED can tell you at a glance what status the camera is in while on the fly. I've put the controller on my web gear (shoulder) and on the bike handlebars (left side). Both work, but the handlebar mount is the easiest for shooting - just harder for getting de-wired when getting on and off the bike alot.
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:51 AM   #80
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Great info

Thanks for all the info everyone. I think I was leaning more towards helmetcamera.com from the start. I now have to get the clams together and place my order
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:09 AM   #81
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Ditto on the LANC control. Makes life MUCH easier.

Here's a cheap "upgrade" on the battery holder (which as Wild Man pointed out can be replaced by a generic one from Rat Shack): get a velcro strap and wrap it around it so the batteries stay put. Must-do if you're riding off-road to keep the batteries in place in that little plastic holder.

After you've fiddled with it you'll probably run to RS and cobble up your own version.

Also, go ahead and get about 12-16 rechargeable AA batteries. Label each one with a Sharpie by giving each one a number 1-16 or whatever. That way as they grow weak over time you can identify the weakling and toss it...otherwise they all look alike.

The whole setup will fit nicely in a Pelican Case 1050 that's 7-1/2"L x 5-1/16"W x 3-1/8"D so it's easy to carry around protected.
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:48 PM   #82
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I shot all the video in my sig with a helmetcamera.com setup.
Good suggestions from the others and I wish I had
the LANC deal as getting my sony recording with
the remote cam is a PITA. In addition to extra AA
batteries get an extra one for your camcorder. I got
a large capacity battery for my trv-460 and it can go about 4 hours
on a charge. Also a usb memory card for the camcorder
to capture stills from the tape is a good idea

Anyone know what causes the audio swimming noises
in the videos? feedback or what?

Is the mike too close to the camera (both in tankbag)

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Old 01-07-2006, 06:45 AM   #83
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cool helmet cam from cons. elec. show

saw this in an article from 2005 las vegas consumer electronics show and thought I'd pass it along.

http://www2.oregonscientific.com/sho...cid=86&pid=560
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Old 01-07-2006, 07:23 AM   #84
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Nice that it will upgrade with a SD card. Pretty low res with the 15fps.
Cheap alternative to a sony bullet and DV cam set-up though at $120.

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saw this in an article from 2005 las vegas consumer electronics show and thought I'd pass it along.

http://www2.oregonscientific.com/sho...cid=86&pid=560
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Old 01-07-2006, 07:42 AM   #85
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There are several of those on e-bay (cheap)
sold-as-is? I would love to know if they are any good.
How much video could you record with 4 AAA batteries?
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Old 01-07-2006, 10:08 AM   #86
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Ha ha, I was just searching for the thread where we were talking about these types of cameras. Anyways, I got an ATC-1000 for Christmas. I just strapped it to my KTM mirror and went for a couple of rides. LOL, a little shakey. I haven't uploaded the movies anywhere as they are kinda large.

Here are some answers to questions you may have..

It comes with two cables, a USB and a RCA plug audio/video. You can play the movies on your TV with the audio/video cable, and if you plug the USB into your computer it shows up as a drive with JPEG and AVI files. You can either play them directly off the USB drive or copy them etc.

You need outdoor kinda of light to get a decent image. The buttons are a PITA to use, especially since the strap kinda covers some of them up in some orientations of the camera, but I guess it's not that bad. You are going to need lots of storage. 640x480 15fps will be 12 minutes on a 256MB SD card. Manual says it supports up to 1GB storage. For some reason, it seemed to shut off at 6 minutes and I had to start it up again to record another 6 minutes. Maybe it is supposed to do that, or perhaps the batteries got gibbley. I should put some dielectric grease on them or something.
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Old 01-07-2006, 10:17 AM   #87
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I'm installing the software it came with, which lets you edit clips & stuff. I'll see if I can crop down something I shot today. But I'll probably go out and ride some more first. Hate Windows.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:48 AM   #88
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wow, sixty bucks here...just ordered one! had to phone them to get the $60 price.
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Old 01-07-2006, 12:56 PM   #89
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It's available at kbtoys.com for $79 too. Maybe in the stores, not sure.

My Kodak v530 camera has awesome 640x480 30fps mpeg4 movie capability. Just not sure I want to destroy it by wearing it while riding. It's $250.
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Old 01-08-2006, 09:13 AM   #90
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my wife has taken some great movie clips from the back of my bike with a Canon A70...seems like a lot of digital still cameras have some sort of movie mode. I suppose you could RAM mount one but as you say, I'm not into risking an expensive camera this way.
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