Cheap outfit by Cheap Ryder

Cheap Ryder · 03-06-2008, 05:14 PM

Here is the starting point of a cheap sidecar built with readily available low tech. 1983 XS650 yamaha rat adventure bike and a 1980 CB650 honda rear wheel and swingarm. They both have the same size rear tire.I will post photos as I build this rig so some of you who would like to try hacking can get an idea what can be done for cheap. This rig is also for sale $795 for the bike or $995 for the completed rig. I am building this rig for my personal use so thanks in advance for all the warnings about danger. I have ridden my home built rigs as far north as the arctic circle and as far south as mexico city. I just brought home some salvage angle iron from where I work...it will work well with the salvaged honda and yamaha 4 wheeler packing crate rectangular tubing.

claude · 03-06-2008, 05:24 PM

Is that an XS1100 tank on the bike?

Cheap Ryder · 03-06-2008, 05:40 PM

It's a good old GS850G suzuki tank, holds almost 6 gallons. Here is a link to a ride on another bike that I put together last year before I got the XS650. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240805

Zecatfish · 03-07-2008, 12:03 PM

Keep us posted, I was just wondering about a DIY side car. My XS850 would make a good mule for it. I could cut up the parts XS850 for the side car wheel. Except its go shaft drive. Would be nice to have matching wheels.

What are you going todo for the body?

Mungo · 03-07-2008, 04:49 PM

This is going to be good

Keep the pics of the project coming Cheap Ryder. I'm a big fan of DIY sidecars. Got one myself, on a GS1000G. Have you got any pics of your previous outfits ?
Mungo.

kliff · 03-09-2008, 03:32 PM

Keep 'em coming man! Sweet project.

Beezer · 03-09-2008, 08:02 PM

Here's mine.... Bultaco wheel, BSA swing arm, unknown shock, Honda (car) jack, $30 of 1"square tubing. Have 3 winters & over two thousand miles on it. I run studded knobbies. Been as fast about 75 mph & runs good, but has a little head shake at 20mph if I take both hands off the bars.... don't feel any if you're holding on. Been tinking of making Earls forks, but haven't got there yet.

Cheap Ryder · 03-09-2008, 09:48 PM

I am slow getting this project rolling but work has been hectic severly limiting my fun time. Here are some old shots of my home builts. This one is on a GS550 Suzuki that we took down mexico way in january february from Washington state. The spare tire is tied under the sidecar and the sidecar seat is our sleeping pads suffed into nylon covers. We had two folding chairs in there somewhere also.

Cheap Ryder · 03-09-2008, 09:58 PM

Here is a shot on the Dempster highway. The rig is a 75 or so CB750 honda with a homebuilt sidecar. The windshield is folded down because the passenger got dropped off in Hyder (therin lies another story). It had a modified triple tree and 5 gallon jeep can mounted like a saddlebag. I also carried another 5 gallon can of gas for a spare. With the electric fuel pump I could try to put 5 gallons of gas into the 4 1/2 gallon honda tank. Lots of fun at night at speed on the road to realize you have gas gushing out the cap of your gas tank. I ran a smaller countershaft sprocket and somewhere north of whitehorse the chain broke and blew a hole in the engine case that you could look in and see gears. A couple of tubes of JB weld and some thin aluminum and it made it home. This one had a GPZ550 rear suspension for the sidecar plus one helper standard shock.

claude · 03-10-2008, 01:38 AM

Cool pictures KEEP EM COMING PLEASE. I rememebr the article on your Alaska trip in Hack'd.

eastbloc · 03-10-2008, 12:39 PM

Haha. JB Weld and aluminum is a precious thing indeed! I bet there's still a Ducati Paso out there somewhere I glued back to life in '99 in a similar fashion when the chain snapped and punched a golf-ball sized hole right through the gasket, between the crankcase and the cover

sperkins · 03-10-2008, 01:03 PM

nice pics! that is crazy cool that you have driven to the arctic circle!

Cheap Ryder · 03-10-2008, 05:57 PM

Sometime I will have to educate myself on video . I have a VHS of us hanging out at midnight at the arctic circle trying to drink beer thru our
mosquito headnets. My friend had a homebuilt on a CB900 honda with the high and low range transmission. The guy in the photo was riding a CB750 with no second gear. After the dempster we took a fast loop over the top of the world highway and hammered back to washington.

MartyL · 03-10-2008, 06:52 PM

Cheap rider. I have a 1976 XS650C. Great bike! I had it since new when I was in the 11th. grade. Check out MikeXS for parts and also type in on google XS650 and you'l find the XS650 site with tons of pics of project XS650's. good luck with your project......

Putts · 03-10-2008, 08:37 PM

Hiya, Cheap Ryder!

Well, well, well. It seems I remember talking about hacks with you whilst chatting late into the evening a fortnight ago.

Looks like a friggen great start! I'd be thinking about buying it myself except I've been thinking about another bike; a little Honda trials machine.

Aaaaaaanyway, can't wait to be up in your neck of the woods for a view of the project in the flesh.

.

03-06-2008, 05:14 PM	#1
Cheap Ryder ^OP Ride for enlightenment Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Montana great divide Oddometer: 545	Cheap outfit by Cheap Ryder Here is the starting point of a cheap sidecar built with readily available low tech. 1983 XS650 yamaha rat adventure bike and a 1980 CB650 honda rear wheel and swingarm. They both have the same size rear tire.I will post photos as I build this rig so some of you who would like to try hacking can get an idea what can be done for cheap. This rig is also for sale $795 for the bike or $995 for the completed rig. I am building this rig for my personal use so thanks in advance for all the warnings about danger. I have ridden my home built rigs as far north as the arctic circle and as far south as mexico city. I just brought home some salvage angle iron from where I work...it will work well with the salvaged honda and yamaha 4 wheeler packing crate rectangular tubing. Attached Images Cheap Ryder screwed with this post 03-06-2008 at 05:15 PM Reason: Bad spelling

03-06-2008, 05:24 PM	#2
claude Sidecar Jockey Joined: Mar 2002 Location: Middleburg, Pa. (Snyder County) Oddometer: 2,729	Is that an XS1100 tank on the bike? __________________ Claude Founder: Internet Sidecar Owners Klub at SCT http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/SCT/ President: C Stanley Motorsports Inc. http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...rsandTrailers/ http://freedomsidecars.com/

03-06-2008, 05:40 PM	#3
Cheap Ryder ^OP Ride for enlightenment Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Montana great divide Oddometer: 545	Gettin tanked It's a good old GS850G suzuki tank, holds almost 6 gallons. Here is a link to a ride on another bike that I put together last year before I got the XS650. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240805

03-07-2008, 12:03 PM	#4
Zecatfish XTique Rider Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Arkansas USA Oddometer: 7,919	Keep us posted, I was just wondering about a DIY side car. My XS850 would make a good mule for it. I could cut up the parts XS850 for the side car wheel. Except its go shaft drive. Would be nice to have matching wheels. What are you going todo for the body? __________________ Google Earth GPS Howto (still a work in progress) use USGS TOPO Maps to layout trails. http://home.windstream.net/catfish/GPS The Early Bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. https://sites.google.com/site/ozarkadventuretours/

03-07-2008, 04:49 PM	#5
Mungo Monarch 53 Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Latrobe Valley, Victoria, Australia. Oddometer: 310	This is going to be good Keep the pics of the project coming Cheap Ryder. I'm a big fan of DIY sidecars. Got one myself, on a GS1000G. Have you got any pics of your previous outfits ? Mungo. __________________ There is a very fine line between "Hobby" and "Mental Illness"

03-09-2008, 03:32 PM	#6
kliff Retired Ole Phart Joined: May 2007 Location: Grovetown, GA Oddometer: 1,119	Keep 'em coming man! Sweet project. __________________ kliff NASRA / MAXX Racing http://nasra.proboards.com/index.cgi Scooter Rebels http://scooterrebels.proboards.com/index.cgi 49cc Scoot http://49ccscoot.com/ Peace, Eagle, as long as it's a BASHAN, it's cool with me!

03-09-2008, 08:02 PM	#7
Beezer Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Anchorage, formerly Spenard (hub of the universe) Oddometer: 4,433	Here's mine.... Bultaco wheel, BSA swing arm, unknown shock, Honda (car) jack, $30 of 1"square tubing. Have 3 winters & over two thousand miles on it. I run studded knobbies. Been as fast about 75 mph & runs good, but has a little head shake at 20mph if I take both hands off the bars.... don't feel any if you're holding on. Been tinking of making Earls forks, but haven't got there yet.

03-09-2008, 09:48 PM	#8
Cheap Ryder ^OP Ride for enlightenment Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Montana great divide Oddometer: 545	Home builts I am slow getting this project rolling but work has been hectic severly limiting my fun time. Here are some old shots of my home builts. This one is on a GS550 Suzuki that we took down mexico way in january february from Washington state. The spare tire is tied under the sidecar and the sidecar seat is our sleeping pads suffed into nylon covers. We had two folding chairs in there somewhere also. Attached Images

03-09-2008, 09:58 PM	#9
Cheap Ryder ^OP Ride for enlightenment Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Montana great divide Oddometer: 545	Sidecars north Here is a shot on the Dempster highway. The rig is a 75 or so CB750 honda with a homebuilt sidecar. The windshield is folded down because the passenger got dropped off in Hyder (therin lies another story). It had a modified triple tree and 5 gallon jeep can mounted like a saddlebag. I also carried another 5 gallon can of gas for a spare. With the electric fuel pump I could try to put 5 gallons of gas into the 4 1/2 gallon honda tank. Lots of fun at night at speed on the road to realize you have gas gushing out the cap of your gas tank. I ran a smaller countershaft sprocket and somewhere north of whitehorse the chain broke and blew a hole in the engine case that you could look in and see gears. A couple of tubes of JB weld and some thin aluminum and it made it home. This one had a GPZ550 rear suspension for the sidecar plus one helper standard shock. Attached Images

03-10-2008, 01:38 AM	#10
claude Sidecar Jockey Joined: Mar 2002 Location: Middleburg, Pa. (Snyder County) Oddometer: 2,729	Cool pictures KEEP EM COMING PLEASE. I rememebr the article on your Alaska trip in Hack'd. __________________ Claude Founder: Internet Sidecar Owners Klub at SCT http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/SCT/ President: C Stanley Motorsports Inc. http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...rsandTrailers/ http://freedomsidecars.com/

03-10-2008, 12:39 PM	#11
eastbloc comprador bourgeois Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Brooklyn Oddometer: 1,228	Haha. JB Weld and aluminum is a precious thing indeed! I bet there's still a Ducati Paso out there somewhere I glued back to life in '99 in a similar fashion when the chain snapped and punched a golf-ball sized hole right through the gasket, between the crankcase and the cover

03-10-2008, 01:03 PM	#12
sperkins Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2008 Oddometer: 213	nice pics! that is crazy cool that you have driven to the arctic circle! __________________ my work

03-10-2008, 05:57 PM	#13
Cheap Ryder ^OP Ride for enlightenment Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Montana great divide Oddometer: 545	Video as well Sometime I will have to educate myself on video . I have a VHS of us hanging out at midnight at the arctic circle trying to drink beer thru our mosquito headnets. My friend had a homebuilt on a CB900 honda with the high and low range transmission. The guy in the photo was riding a CB750 with no second gear. After the dempster we took a fast loop over the top of the world highway and hammered back to washington.

03-10-2008, 06:52 PM	#14
MartyL Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2007 Oddometer: 127	Cheap rider. I have a 1976 XS650C. Great bike! I had it since new when I was in the 11th. grade. Check out MikeXS for parts and also type in on google XS650 and you'l find the XS650 site with tons of pics of project XS650's. good luck with your project......

03-10-2008, 08:37 PM	#15
Putts Gettin' there. Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Bozoman, Montana Oddometer: 10,956	Hiya, Cheap Ryder! Well, well, well. It seems I remember talking about hacks with you whilst chatting late into the evening a fortnight ago. Looks like a friggen great start! I'd be thinking about buying it myself except I've been thinking about another bike; a little Honda trials machine. Aaaaaaanyway, can't wait to be up in your neck of the woods for a view of the project in the flesh. . __________________ . "Origin is right here, right now," said Klay. GTomic replied, "Many myth the point."

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