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Old 06-29-2015, 12:46 PM   #1
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Hazard flashers while riding

Did several searches for this and did not find anything...

While in France, I noticed riders using their hazard flashers in heavy traffic. It made me take more notice than I usually do.

What do y'all think of doing it in the U.S.? Not really interested in its legality - more its effectiveness at getting a bike noticed from behind.




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Old 06-29-2015, 12:54 PM   #2
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I have not seen many bikes with hazard flashers fitted.
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Old 06-29-2015, 12:58 PM   #3
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Legal requirement to have hazards on all bikes in Europe, just like DRL. Hazards are used in heavy braking on highways to alert those behind that the vehicles ahead have come to a stop. Not entirely sure if the OP meant that or the French are doing it whilst filtering....
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Old 06-29-2015, 01:07 PM   #4
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What do y'all think of doing it in the U.S.? Not really interested in its legality - more its effectiveness at getting a bike noticed from behind.
Bike or cage, I turn mine on when I'm stopped at road construction or unexpectedly in heavy traffic or any "hazard" situation until I'm sure there are a couple vehicles behind me that are clued in.

More with the bike than a cage, I worry about target fixation from behind...
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Old 06-29-2015, 01:24 PM   #5
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I've seen it done in heavy fast-paced traffic which suddenly slows in MA. A few people put their hazards on as they brake hard to indicate we're about to go from 70 to 0 in 3 feet. It seems useful - but I think it's important they turn them off once we're rolling again. You need turn signals to still be obvious indicators.

Personally, I don't do it because I'm busy modulating the brake, one eye ahead and one eye in the mirror. That takes enough attention, forget reaching for a button. It'd be cool if a deceleration sensor did it for me though.
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Old 06-29-2015, 01:49 PM   #6
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This is my first bike with hazards.

Yes, from what I could tell they were doing it while filtering in heavy traffic on the highway. Didn't see it on city streets.

They were not turning it on and off - would just leave it on


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Old 06-30-2015, 07:15 AM   #7
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Legal requirement to have hazards on all bikes in Europe, just like DRL. Hazards are used in heavy braking on highways to alert those behind that the vehicles ahead have come to a stop. Not entirely sure if the OP meant that or the French are doing it whilst filtering....
Hello from France !
Cars use hazards for heavy braking. It's even automatic on some cars.
Bikes use hazards while filtering and lane splitting. It's not required by law but the idea is to get more visibility.
Most people do it, especially on the periphérique (ring road) around Paris.
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Old 06-30-2015, 07:48 AM   #8
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In the UK it's used for heavy/unexpected braking - but not for filtering.
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Old 06-30-2015, 07:53 AM   #9
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I've seen it pretty commonly in a few southern US states in heavy rain as well.
Seems smart, but I'm a yank so what do I know.
Where I come from it seems like the general rule for drivers is, floor it and hope for the best.
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Old 06-30-2015, 07:57 AM   #10
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Most newer Harleys have 4-way flashers.

Here's a List-o-Laws for flasher use in the US.


http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/laws/hazard-light-use/
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Old 06-30-2015, 07:58 AM   #11
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In the UK it's used for heavy/unexpected braking - but not for filtering.
The main use for hazards in the UK is for inconsiderate parking. That's why they're known as "park anywhere lights".
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:02 AM   #12
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It's like that here in the States, too.

"I'll just pull into this NO PARKING spot, but I'll put my flashers on and it'll be okay."
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:21 AM   #13
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Adding hazard flashers

The Patriot Guard Riders use emergency flashers on escort missions. FYI, almost any bike with turn signals can have 4 way flashers. All you need is a SPDT switch. The switch can be a weather proof on/off toggle or a push on - push off switch. When the switch is in the on position, it should be wired to connect both left and right turn signal circuits together. On European bikes wired to DIN standards, the turn signal color codes are Blue/Black and Blue/Red. When the new 4 way flasher switch is on, activating either left or right turn signals will flash all four turn signals. Prior to installation and wiring the switch, a temporary jumper can be clipped in to make sure your flasher circuit can handle 4 way load.

To preempt the habitual critics, the downsides are:
1) it may not work on bikes with marginal flashers
2) The 4 way mode may flash twice as fast as the normal blinker
3) You have to remember to turn the 4 way switch off for normal blinker operation.
4) if you forget #3 and also forget to ride as if you were invisible, a selfish and aggressive cage driver might get confused and run over you.
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Old 07-01-2015, 01:12 PM   #14
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Thanks for the opinions everyone. I think I will try it in the horrible Wa traffic. Anything to help with the horrible Wa drivers


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Old 07-01-2015, 03:41 PM   #15
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I've seen it pretty commonly in a few southern US states in heavy rain as well....
I always think this is pretty stupid. Even more stupid when they make lane changes with hazards on - because now you have no clue what they are going to do. It is a good way to ensure other drivers know you're slowing due to the rain but they tend to leave them on. After a few seconds I'm saying to myself "yeah... it's raining... I noticed already so turn the fockin' things off will you!"

On the bike, I don't think I've ever used hazards while riding and I'd be worried someone was going to see the light on one side only and think I was signaling a turn.
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