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Old 04-16-2009, 03:22 AM   #1666
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wow, that's cool pictures...where I born we could only dream of Izh Planeta Sport as offroader, no single possibility to buy foreigh bike (except Jawa and CZ) existed bck then in USSR.
And even that only when you become a student or start working - price was sky high...
So, back in 90 new "era" started in ex-USSR. I blame movies, but it was "choppers and bandanas" era. Yes, it touched me too, I must admit. I bough half-made Dnerp-boxer chopper, rebuilt it, finished and rode it.
Funnily enough couple of years later when I managed to buy Honda VT250 I tried to ride ex-my "chopper" again as it was sold to my friend. Guess what? I almost s..t myself when I realized I have almost no brakes, it handles like barge and I can't trust it a second. That was end of "choppers era" for me. Since that time I tried many "proper" metric/HD cruisers and still hate them.
I bet you won't find anything like that in NZ, Oz or US
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Old 04-16-2009, 03:36 AM   #1667
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You make me feel like I was a capitalists pigs , Nice to see you getting in touch with your emotions with that reminiscing

UMM ERR nice bike , still its better than my first , a FS 50cc Yamaha, even then I thought it was slow ( I was 13 years old 1975 ) and its prettier than the Yamy,
BMW must have stole the design, A

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Old 04-16-2009, 03:53 AM   #1668
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that's my second bike :)
My first bike only rode once. It was 1937 NSU 600OSL, beatifully engineered "1937 sportbike" left behind by German army in WWII. It was just about moving and somebody messed up and rebuilt half of it. I almost finished main restoration (made replica of original rear part, serviced engine, built telescopic forks instead of missing girder forks etc. etc. etc.).
I was not able to find working generator and electician I gave it too lost it!!! That stalled project. At that time I was so desperate to own rideable bike instead of begging friends that I bought this chopper garbage

My second bike was that (VT250 grey import) - paint job? Took me ages + 6 layers of clear coat). At that time I had in my garage 4 bikes of my friends too and had possibility to sometimes ride them as I was working on them - an NSR250R, CX500, GSX400 and XJ750.

Sorry. It's boring today at work. Everybody on vacation, too much time on my hands
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Old 04-16-2009, 04:00 AM   #1669
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Na its good stuff,VTR would have been a spaceship after the boxer.
Everyone must be asleep which is what I must do now as its 11pm

When I wake I expect ill see a mirade of Old Bikes here

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Old 04-16-2009, 04:05 AM   #1670
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I was just thinking of starting the USSR conversation yesterday.
The thing is that I'm convinced that people who originate from Soviet union or from areas that are influenced from the Soviets are DIFFERENT.
I was about 4 when the Soviet Union collapsed and the Internet already existed but STILL... I can remember that the thinking and the possibilities for young motorcyclists in Estonia were the the same as bluesman described even 10 years ago - that makes 1999 - after EIGHT years of independence.

We (and I mean people that were adults by that time too) couldn't really use internet. And we still didn't have the money to buy Japanese bikes. SO these Dneprs, Urals and "Dnerprals" were often built to be choppers... HELL! Some guys are still building them. Luckily the trend is changing to restaurateing. Seven years ago I was thinking of building a chopper - now I would restaurate.

But the thing I wanted to point out yesterday was the "Russian mechanics syndrome". I'm sure I have it and I blieve Bluesman has it and definately many of my friends has it.
Up until the end of last century (not to talk about the times of the soviet union) we didn't have either access or money to properly engineered machines. But we had A LOT of "homecountry's" stuff. It was normal that in the weekends men were in the garage cleaning the carburettors and changeing parts for he's means of transportation, because it was "evil" and "capitalistic" of you to change cars every ten years. When you got a permit to buy a LADA you were THE MAN! Unfortunately there were times when you needed to join the socialists party (is it really spelled so? ) to get the permit.

So my point was that many of us in this thread are mechanics like that but for this side of the world that is untuched by the soviets I believe it's more of a exeption. People from soviets are born raised like that. The nicest difference is that nowadays you aren't a capitalistic pig if you have three western bikes in the garage.

Maybe my thoughts are obvious, but somehow wanted to express myself
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Old 04-16-2009, 04:47 AM   #1671
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you got it spot on. This is indeed all true.
In my case situation worsened by the fact that my father is brilliant engineer and I was raised like that - "man should be able to build airplane from garbadge" :) and I studied in graduated after 6 years to Technological engineer - mechanical engineer and I was real good at it. As I started to work in the area USSR collapsed. I had to bail out to have income and went into IT business. But I still have that "itch" to use my knowledge and I like it. So, when I getting more tools and machines available to me it just get's worse and worse. I can't stop fiddling bikes or any really mechanical work I can get my hands on. I know quite a few people like me ex-USSR.
Generally I do not think it is good. I envy people who can just buy bike and ride it way it is for years. It's good to be handy with bikes, but endless modifying takes lot of time I can spend riding. My excuse is that I don't fancy just weekend rideouts anymore for some reason, I need objective, scenery and distance to enjoy riding and prefer to stay away for crowded areas...which is impossible in Belgium.
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Old 04-16-2009, 05:02 AM   #1672
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Bluesman where exactly in USSR did you live? You have mentioned the fact quite a few times, but you have never said the name of your homecountry.
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Old 04-16-2009, 05:06 AM   #1673
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Born and raised in Kiev, Ukraine (since few generation of my family are from Kiev). Lived there till end 2000 when company moved me with family to Belgium...
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Old 04-16-2009, 05:34 AM   #1674
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The major problems I have seen people run into are (a)ignoring what the front wheel will do on full bump (compression)and (b)not balancing the rear suspension with the front...
This is why I may keep the forks etc and save up for a Hagon or Wilburs shock, then get the whole suspension set-up sorted. Probably by someone who can twirl spanners while I drink tea and take photos
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Old 04-16-2009, 05:37 AM   #1675
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Wow, this is great bunch of info guys.
BTW - just thought - Ray, I hope it will not scare you off on changing forks
Well, it certainly scares me personally . See previous post for likely outcome - me and the DR riding to the Hagon workshop together
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Old 04-16-2009, 05:40 AM   #1676
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Loving the eastern european 'build' stories, guys.

I'm thinking I could get in some serious trouble if I ended up drinking with you lot
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Old 04-16-2009, 05:53 AM   #1677
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Oh, forgot to ask; assuming I get the forks done, is the easiest way to upgrade the braking still to buy the nordwest caliper from ebay?
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Old 04-16-2009, 05:59 AM   #1678
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Always wanted to see USSR, more specific, take a train ride on the Trans Siberian Express. Someday...

I'm just a lowly mainframe programmer. I always look in awe when people take things apart AND assemble it again. Never fails to impress me.
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Old 04-16-2009, 06:02 AM   #1679
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I'm thinking I could get in some serious trouble if I ended up drinking with you lot
I saw a Russian drink vodka in Ireland - even the Irish were seriously impressed.
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Old 04-16-2009, 06:36 AM   #1680
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Oh, forgot to ask; assuming I get the forks done, is the easiest way to upgrade the braking still to buy the nordwest caliper from ebay?
Correct, but to be specific - it will be best inexpensive upgrade. Rememeber - you still will have to get adaptor made.

Drinking...well, I am not that trained anymore. Too much time in Belgium.
But I still can drink more without problems than any of local people I know. I guess we born like that

But Russians that can drink more vodka than Irish - that means they never quit training I have some friends back in Kiev who are totally normal people who does not drink often but can take uncountable amount of vodka and then go to work next day
Difference between proper vodka (forget about all this Smirnoff and Absolute stuff, that's no vodka) and good whisky is that vodka does not act on you almost right away, it takes time. Many people do not know it and getting "too far". As long as you need to stop before you feel hopelessly drunk and as long as you don't mix it with anything, taking small cold shots with plenty of food and pauses between -you will be OK.
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