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Old 02-04-2010, 04:44 AM   #6061
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Rob, their website structure has changed - since I am in IT I can confirm it was done resently. Looks like their online shop section restructured.

here is homepage

http://www.hamart.at/start/

shop
http://www.hamart.at/shopG/
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:23 AM   #6062
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About the chain oiler. I have been thinking of one for some time now also!

I have one thing to add to the above: I was thinking of useing a vacuum valve for turning the oil off and on. I purchased a low priced scooter petrol tank valve (it has just in, out and vacuum inserts, and thats it).

What you guys think? Is it worth to mess with the engines vacuum hose. I was thinkin of a Y piece between the original fuelpump hose... Scottoiler uses somekind of a thingy also in the vacuum line that somehow stabilizes or something (its basically a sponge in the line or smthng).

I had some good thoughts on the dual-oil-applier building. Thanks!
Tested, used and discounted :) exactly with scooter petrol tap :)

It works, no questions. You need to use anything except manifold...I think you can use vacuum hose that comes to right side of carbs.
I tell you why my close friends we usually mess bikes with :) discounted idea.
It was not on Bigs, there was free vacuum line to use etc. BUT.
When you run engine stationary oiler drips oil on floor because oil not dispersed around chain because chain is stationary. E.g. every time you start bike to warm it up you have to shut off manual valve of oiler.
What they did is to use solenoid valve. Available in abundance on German eBay in already tuned for installation to oiler form. Cheap.
Check this out
http://cgi.ebay.de/2-2-Magnetventil-...item2ea71759fd

http://cgi.ebay.de/2-2-Magnetventil-...item2ea7175a09

http://cgi.ebay.de/2-2-Wege-Magnetve...item2ea7a5255d


I am paranoid about all electrical, so I am not going this route. But my friends using setup with solenoid valve for 1-2 years now, self-made. No problem, except they now going to buy those valves (above) I found for them because valves they used took too much juice and were getting hot. I think initially they used some valves from akvarium shop or something

I have 2 "mechanical" ideas.
1. I am bidding for very very very cheap new old stock chaintec offroad oiler (yes, I know about bad press for them) to use as kit of materials to build my own system. I particularly interested to get their inertia switch they used to open/shut oil flow, open it up and if it is not up to my marks - make better one myself. I really like idea, I think it is very smart idea. Implementation - it is different thing...
2. Will try to mechanically relate switch that opens valve with side stand closed. VERY questionnable approach, I know :)
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:58 AM   #6063
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it would be pretty easy to make a cable from the side stand pull on a sprung plunger to open and close the oil valve

i did say sprung mate :P

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Old 02-04-2010, 06:05 AM   #6064
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Yep, but only to open, it should close by means of spring - this will help avoiding pool of oil in garage if something wrong with mechanics.
Switch must be located down next or instead (if removed by owner for different reasons) of sidestand switch, I just could not find nice shut off valve to be small and sturdy enough. Belgium is awful when it comes to looking for anything DYI industrial. Any advice on where to get such valve from will be appreciated!
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:11 AM   #6065
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Does anyone have a nice picture (or sketch) of how the wiring loom slips onto the dr750, having removed it a couple of months ago, i have since slept and all thoughts / memories have left the boundaries of my brain.

Having said that, the wiring loom was bodged in before i stripped it so..
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:39 AM   #6066
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Vilguy, it's in workshop manual - you can find good diagram there, I think at end of DR750 section
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:40 AM   #6067
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err workshop manual... do i have one of those?
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:38 AM   #6068
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You don't have the holy book of The Big. You'll get banned from the royal family for that! I should have it at my home computer. But maybe someone has a link or something. I remember it was a little tricky to find for free in the i-net.


THE SIDESTAND OIL-TAP is a great idea. I mean, you won't have problems with vacuum OR electrics. It's a stand alone mechanism. I'll try to find somekind of tap for the system during the winter.
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:41 AM   #6069
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oh if you find it please let me know

i reckon something could be found in an aqautic shop or something similar. They have lots of funny little valves etc that are small
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:48 AM   #6070
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Oh! Still not in posession of Holy Grail - SUZIKI workshop manual for DR!

No probs
http://www.timguy.net/sites/drbiginfo/DrBIGmanuals/

Thanks to TimGuy we now have it on Net.
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:03 AM   #6071
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me now love you long time!
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:33 AM   #6072
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I like the idea of using the side stand as the oiler switch (a "stand alone" mechanism, indeed....you're a funny guy Morse).

Since there is an electrical switch there you could make it either mechnical or electrical. (although my electrical switch has been removed long ago)

On the whole, I like the "manual" switch since it's gives you control when riding. This way you don't have to get the oil feed rate exactly correct so over-oiling is not a problem.

I have found oil flow rate to be highly dependent on ambient temperature with summer flow rates 2 to 3 times greater than winter rates. Also consider that my climate is likely not at variable as most of the world.

I've only left the valve ON once (for 4 days) and even then only had to clean up about 200cc of oil. It's also pretty obvious there's a problem as long as your not walking through your shop in the dark......zzziiiippppp....ooopppsss...ouch !
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:23 AM   #6073
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Some Photos

It's been a while since anyone posted any piccies so........


I went for a ride between rain showers yesterday.




.....and then I though I'd try for my "Nave Shot". I thought that since Rob was brave enough to show his face here, I'd do the same.

OK...I'm not
young
handsome
wearing sun glasses
in a stand of black oak and not in the dez
winter, not summer
wrong knee up
.......add more as necessary......here goes:



At the very least I was able (after about 10 min) to make the self-timer on the digi-cam work right....a minor triumph
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:39 AM   #6074
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It's been a while since anyone posted any piccies so........


I went for a ride between rain showers yesterday.




.....and then I though I'd try for my "Nave Shot". I thought that since Rob was brave enough to show his face here, I'd do the same.

OK...I'm not
young
handsome
wearing sun glasses
in a stand of black oak and not in the dez
winter, not summer
wrong knee up
.......add more as necessary......here goes:



At the very least I was able (after about 10 min) to make the self-timer on the digi-cam work right....a minor triumph
You might not fall down in the mud so much if you replaced your front tire.

You're pipe is too low. Your valves are incorrectly adjusted. You need to change your oil more often.

And it's obvious you're riding the wrong roads with the wrong people.

Oh... and you're bike is too clean.

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Old 02-04-2010, 10:12 AM   #6075
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You might not fall down in the mud so much if you replaced your front tire.
There is no tire in existance that will keep me upright in mud.

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You're pipe is too low.
I know, it melted a hole in my coat

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Your valves are incorrectly adjusted
Correct again, but I like the "ticky-ticky" sound. Loud Valves Save Lives

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You need to change your oil more often.
Don't we all?

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you're riding the wrong roads with the wrong people
I'm riding by myself (or I woulda had somebody hold the stupid camera) so I guess I should really change who I am (whoever THAT is). Wait, maybe a different road.....nope....tried them all and the voice inside my head stays the same. No hope on this front.

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Oh... and you're bike is too clean.
Not after I fell down in the mud 5 minutes after the photo was taken.


Thanks for the advice....glad you're still reading.
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