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Old 04-23-2012, 03:15 AM   #12856
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I bought my first DR750 back in 1988 and had to sell it in 1998 to fund my Australian Safari entry. I told the guy I sold it to that if he ever wanted to sell it again, to call me.........

Then, after nearly 15 years, yesterday came the call!
I'm going to have a look at it tonight, but I'm buying it back no matter what!!!!!
God knows where I'll get the money................

Anyway, until I get it back, here's a pic of what it looked like not long before I sold it.

Wow. Congratulations. Now you only one here except couple of folks in Germany who got factory-race kit DR!
I still remember asking you some questions about your DR few years back! :)
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:21 AM   #12857
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Ladder

Thanks for the reply. I saw that 75 V(volts) at 5000 RPM in the shop manual that came with my bike and I totally don't understand it. After I posted my questions I did a search and found a post by bluesman stating that the alternator output was 200 watts. I have warm & Safe Gen 4 jacket that draws 96 watts(7.5 amps X 12.8 volts) so the 200 watt capacity should be plenty to run the jacket and headlights at the same time. Come to think of it, I have a 04 DRZ400S and the Clymer manual says the alternator output for it is 200 watts. I rode that bike during the winter with the W&S jacket with no problem and the headlight stays on all the time on it. I sure would like to be a mouse in the Suzuki factory and see if the alternator is the same for the DR750 and DRZ400S. At any rate, I am sure some of the other fellows will chime in. - Bob
75 Volt at 5000 rpm is no-load performance...won't do us much good to go by...My 200 watt info based on information, given to me by one of my friends, real expert in all electrics after looking at DR generator and taking some measurements using external load that are beyond my understanding I hate to be involved with any "electrics" on bike
Please note, that DR big using separate circuit/part of stator for ingnition cycle, e.g. those 200 (that's minimum at 5000 according to that friend of mine) watt are all usable. Replace taillight with LED, indicators with LED and you will save LOADS of watts.

P.S. that's 200 watt after RR, e.g. on 12 volt circuit.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:28 AM   #12858
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Page 10-7 of manual confirms it BTW - 200 watts at 5000 rpm
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:53 AM   #12859
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As per the Aussie thread, here's the deal:

The deal is done!
I tried to take a couple of photos with my phone, but obviously I've got no idea about taking pictures and they didn't work...........

The story is a common one. The guy I'm buying it off started a rebuild and lost momentum. The engine is apart and has been for a few years. But all the cool stuff it there and it's pretty much ready to reassemble.

It will be back 'home' in a couple of weeks.

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Old 04-23-2012, 06:03 AM   #12860
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As per the Aussie thread, here's the deal:

The deal is done!
I tried to take a couple of photos with my phone, but obviously I've got no idea about taking pictures and they didn't work...........

The story is a common one. The guy I'm buying it off started a rebuild and lost momentum. The engine is apart and has been for a few years. But all the cool stuff it there and it's pretty much ready to reassemble.

It will be back 'home' in a couple of weeks.

that is one sweet lookin bike
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:30 AM   #12861
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Page 10-7 of manual confirms it BTW - 200 watts at 5000 rpm
Thanks blues man. I was able to find your Dec. 2009 post on this subject by searching the word "watts". Are you referring to a Suzuki owners manual or some other brand? I have the Suzuki service manual for this bike but it only has 7 chapters and does not state alt. output. I usually pick up aClymers manual for my bikes as I find they seem to be written for amateur mechanics. The factory service manuals seem to be written for trained mechanics. - Bob
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:26 AM   #12862
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Thanks blues man. I was able to find your Dec. 2009 post on this subject by searching the word "watts". Are you referring to a Suzuki owners manual or some other brand? I have the Suzuki service manual for this bike but it only has 7 chapters and does not state alt. output. I usually pick up aClymers manual for my bikes as I find they seem to be written for amateur mechanics. The factory service manuals seem to be written for trained mechanics. - Bob
This is Suzuki Workshop Manual, e.g. not Clymer but you only have part of it.
The 7 chapter one covers first DR750 SR41.
Complete manual covers SR41,42,43 up to 1997.
So - 200 at 5000 is figure for DR800 SR43, BUT - DR750 expected no-load minimal output is 75 Volt and DR800 65 Volt, e.g. I seriously doubt SR41 generator output is less than SR43.
Please note - this first 7-chapter manual also specifying incorrect valve clearances. This had been corrected later, as exhaust valve seats can get burned.
Current clearances recommended are (from memory) 0.08-0.13 intake and 0.15-0.20 exhaust.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:29 AM   #12863
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all the cool stuff it there and it's pretty much ready to reassemble.

It will be back 'home' in a couple of weeks.

What was included in the Suzuki Factory Race Kit???

What exactly is all the cool stuff. Are those Honda XR forks? They certainly look like a Honda front axle attachment. Interesting to see an Ohlins sticker from 15 years ago.

I'd love to see how the ICO and route box is mounted.

I'm more than satisfied with the power of the bikes - just curious about what the factory once provided

.....and what you had to do to get one.

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Shipping company should be picking up my SR43 today from Loaderdude in Florida. Hopefully 5 days away

Lars has dual headlamps enroute from his magic workshop

So I'm like a kid before Christmas. We had our first 80 (27) deg day yesterday and everything is green and blossoming...great time for riding.

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Old 04-23-2012, 04:04 PM   #12864
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The factory kit came with a different camshaft, larger oil cooler, close ratio gearbox, different crankcases, kickstart assembly, sand cast clutch cover and solid footpegs. Interstingly, no suspension stuff was included so I fitted an XR front end and Ohlins shock on the rear. I also fitted a Honda rear wheel.
I kept the nav gear when I sold the bike, but it got lost when my shed burnt down about 10 yeas ago.
It was mounted to the bars, but once I rebuild it, I'll mount it behind the screen.



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Old 04-23-2012, 04:29 PM   #12865
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Seems like ladder has actual got on the magic bus ... but remember the lines 'I don't care how much I pay!'
All the best to you, much fun, good music and kind regards, Bambi
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:08 PM   #12866
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Bambi,

Whatever happend to those music CDs you wanted for your friend?

Tony T.

Great that you were able to buy your old machine back. Please photograph the rebuild.

Sad that there were no side tanks in the factory kit although the kickstarter would be interesting to use.
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:16 PM   #12867
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Bluesman, thanks for the heads up on the service manual. Mine had the wrong clearance numbers in it. The day I bought the bike the PO commented that he had checked the valves several times while he owned it and they were always in spec. Think I will message him and see what numbers he used. Bike has about 29000K on it and ran great during a 200 mi. Ride yesterday. - Bob
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:18 AM   #12868
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Bluesman, thanks for the heads up on the service manual. Mine had the wrong clearance numbers in it. The day I bought the bike the PO commented that he had checked the valves several times while he owned it and they were always in spec. Think I will message him and see what numbers he used. Bike has about 29000K on it and ran great during a 200 mi. Ride yesterday. - Bob
It would run good with either clearances...it is more of precaution in long run.
I think if you put them in smaller range of adjustment recommended in next year manual it will do it. To be honest my DR did not had any serious deviations in clearances each time I checked...usually in specs.
29 000 is fresh for DR :) you got yourself very nice bike indeed!
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:54 PM   #12869
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Hi ladder,
as I mentioned sometime ago, I didn't get your reply to my question. If you still have a copy, could you please place it in the private mails here? We had been sure that they don't send them to Germany but maybe, we just didn't find it ...
If you know where to look, your help would be highly appreciated.
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:16 PM   #12870
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Bambi,

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