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Old 06-25-2014, 04:53 PM   #1
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I have heard that the new x and Oring chains do not require constant lubing. In fact chains that are used in the dirt actually wear quicker as the lube attracts dust which destroys them. Heard that lubing is a method to control rust.


So is this true? Tried this on the BMW stock chain which I assume to be a sealed chain and it started squeaking and sticking/thumping when under tension.

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Old 06-25-2014, 05:16 PM   #2
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The chain lubes that are available now, especially those made for O and X ring chains, help keep the seals from drying out and shrinking.

I don't want to start a debate on the best lube, so we'll just stick to the common types.

Wax ones like Motul and the solvent carried Belray Super Clean (my favorite) are made to surround and fling off any dust, dirt and mud that comes into contact with the chain.

Oils and greases like the Napa brand are ok, but messy.

Some folks like to soak their chains in 80 or 90 weight oil as they won't fling off too much. But I'm lazy so no for me.

WD40 is okay in a pinch as it will keep water and dirt away but it's too thin to last very long.
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Old 06-25-2014, 07:27 PM   #3
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You might check out the vid done by Chris at Ca Cycle works, he uses Chain Wax for both cleaning and lubing, I used his method on a 1700 mile ride last week and it worked a charm!
As. Long time BMW shafty person I was not up on chain shit and this was a real eye opener!
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:27 PM   #4
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I have heard that the new x and Oring chains do not require constant lubing. In fact chains that are used in the dirt actually wear quicker as the lube attracts dust which destroys them. Heard that lubing is a method to control rust.


So is this true? Tried this on the BMW stock chain which I assume to be a sealed chain and it started squeaking and sticking/thumping when under tension.

The manufacturer in the user manual for the bike will tell you to lubricate the chain every 500 klm's or so, no? A new DID x or o ring chain will come with instructions on where to regularly lubricate the chain (at the side plates). Sprockets wear as well, and which will wear a sprocket faster, dry rusty rollers or nicely lubricated rollers?

Is there any further doubt?

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Old 06-26-2014, 02:18 AM   #5
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Has to be done. In my view, no question about it.
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Old 06-26-2014, 02:41 AM   #6
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I like to clean a chain with paraffin, wipe dry and then use oil on the rollers and seals. Flings off and carries the crap with it. Yes, its messy and your wheel looks dirty but that wipes clean easily and you chain always looks nice and lubed. In paris I see some horrible crusty rusty chains, makes my eyes bleed

All the oil mist on the underside of the bike protects it from corrosion too.. win win
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:56 AM   #7
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You might check out the vid done by Chris at Ca Cycle works, he uses Chain Wax for both cleaning and lubing, I used his method on a 1700 mile ride last week and it worked a charm!
As. Long time BMW shafty person I was not up on chain shit and this was a real eye opener!
Can you provide a link, please? I searched but couldn't find it.
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:20 AM   #8
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The lube is for the chain to spocket contact (to help the sprockets last a bit longer) Not the chain itself.

The chains lube is on the inside.
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:37 AM   #9
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Can you provide a link, please? I searched but couldn't find it.
Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682LEXdI-80

Chris Kelley, the owner and the one in the video, is a great guy. We need more people like him in the motorcycle industry.
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:44 AM   #10
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The lube is for the chain to spocket contact (to help the sprockets last a bit longer) Not the chain itself.

The chains lube is on the inside.
What keeps the lube on the sprocket?
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:47 AM   #11
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Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682LEXdI-80

Chris Kelley, the owner and the one in the video, is a great guy. We need more people like him in the motorcycle industry.
I use the same chain wax (first)!!!
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THANK YOU FOR POSTING THE LINK.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:08 AM   #12
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What keeps the lube on the sprocket?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesion
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I used to use Maxima Chain Wax, as recommended by California Cycleworks, but switched to Dupont Teflon Multi-Use Lubricant when it came out and found it to work just as well, but it smells better and is slightly less messy.

Yes, the main lubricant is inside the chain, held in place by the O-rings (or whatever other name your chain manufacturer uses), but the rollers and O-rings still need a bit of lubricant. Plus if you ride in the rain the side plates are likely to rust, at least on the OEM chains. So I still lubricate my chains every once in a while, but don't worry too much about it most of the time.
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Boy, that article covers many different applications, could you please educate me on how the lube adheres to the side plate and sprocket for any useable length of during operation? How does the lube not get immediately squished out by the rollers? Wiped off by the side plates (if the side plates don't contact the sprocket, then is that a wear point which needs to be lubricated?)

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Old 06-26-2014, 09:36 AM   #15
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Tri - Flow - used it for many years and it does a very good job.


http://www.triflowlubricants.com/Tri...Lubricant.html
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