I'm going to build a 2WD rig. - Page 2

larryboy · 08-12-2008, 05:51 PM

I'm not really thinking full time 2WD, I'm thinking more in the line of the Ural..engagable 2WD.

I can't think of an easy way to get power from the chain driven motorcycle turned and into the pinion of a differential..much too complicated.

Simple jackshaft with a Mobec style chain box to split power with an axle disconnect for the sidecar axle shaft.

This kind is slick looking, but not easy to use. I don't want to be laying in the mud to engage the axle.

I'll be going with some more like this, cable actuated and easy to engage from the seat of the bike.

I know a guy that has experience building these for the rock crawl guys and Trail Tough in Oregon has a smaller one for the Suzuki Samurai that might be more suitable.

oppozit · 08-14-2008, 06:56 PM

Chain drive bike with sidecar drive - Norton Big Four. Instead of a differential, look at a viscous coupling. Essentially acts as a differential with an automatic difflock.

Nixels · 08-20-2008, 07:14 PM

If you need some help at Pick&Pull - getting tools or schlepping parts, let me know.

This looks like a great project.

Good luck.

Nicky

larryboy · 08-20-2008, 07:15 PM

Well, after 3 months of back and forth with East Coast Wheel I finally got my parts back from their failed attempt to build me wheels. They totally suck as a vendor..lies,lies and more lies.

I really wanted my rotors and rear sprocket back...finally I might make some progress.

Viscous coupler donor vehicles? Subaru I'd imagine. I'll go to the auto recycler this weekend with the camera and look for donor parts.

larryboy · 08-21-2008, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixels

This looks like a great project.

Good luck.

Nicky

we posted at the same time. Thanks for the offer of help, Nicky. P-N-P is really close and easy for me.

lstzephyr · 08-22-2008, 08:40 PM

one thing you might want to look into is a "transfer case" off a mitsubishi eclipse/eagle talon/plymouth laser/galant vr4. I had a galant vr4 transfer case in my talon that had a disconnect so it could be put in two wheel drive as opposed to four. I think it would work pretty well for something like this if set up right. It basically takes the drive and makes a 90 degree turn to the back of the car. Pretty strong too, some dsms can make big power(600-700-1000) and I haven't heard of too many transfer case problems. Never had a problem with mine and I estimated that car at 300.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...p/IMG_7865.jpg

larryboy · 08-22-2008, 09:23 PM

Interesting, but I can't make it work in my head? Looks like they mounted the case at the front and the main tube shot to the back diff..I can't think of a way to make that work for me.

lstzephyr · 08-22-2008, 09:31 PM

http://bendavies.home.comcast.net/%7...s/r75drive.gif

I was thinking like that but other way around.

larryboy · 08-22-2008, 09:47 PM

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm needing to get the chain drive off the bike over to the right so a traditional transfer case divorce mounted would work and point the outputs the right directions.

danster · 09-07-2008, 10:44 AM

I don't have any experience with side cars or anything but am interested.

Your problem with getting the drive over to the side car on the R/H side I think could be made simpler by using a single L/H sided swing arm (a large problem in itself) then mount a drive shaft flange to the to the wheel. Depending on if the diameter of the hack wheel and M/C wheel. If they are the same diameter and how far forward the hack wheel is in relation to the M/C wheel you could possibly just run cv joints on either end with a shaft coupler in the middle.

Just a thought.

Dan

RedMenace · 02-05-2009, 03:01 PM

Larry Boy from Adventure Sidecar on Vimeo.

Nixels · 02-05-2009, 04:36 PM

Well?

larryboy, larryboy?

Anybody?

Mr. Fisherman · 02-08-2009, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedMenace

Larry Boy from Adventure Sidecar on Vimeo.

Winterbiker · 02-09-2009, 10:22 PM

Hi,

lokk at this,

this is a TWD conversion with reverse gear and a low reduction for all 6 gears you can fit to any motorcycle.

http://wodka-murmansk.over-blog.com/...-27756286.html

Click on the video.

Attend the english sub titles.

Winterbiker

Caddy82rats · 02-09-2009, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterbiker

Hi,

lokk at this,

this is a TWD conversion with reverse gear and a low reduction for all 6 gears you can fit to any motorcycle.

http://wodka-murmansk.over-blog.com/...-27756286.html

Click on the video.

Attend the english sub titles.

Winterbiker

That's a genious build !!!

08-20-2008, 07:14 PM	#18
Nixels Face fears - live life Joined: Sep 2006 Location: West Oakland, CA Oddometer: 7,386	If you need some help at Pick&Pull - getting tools or schlepping parts, let me know. This looks like a great project. Good luck. Nicky __________________ Coffee first, then all your other mundane bullshit. Benjava That tofu will kill you, stay away from it. Soy is the devils bean! moe.ron SmugMug coupon: cwbkgu7KGL2D2/save $5

08-22-2008, 08:40 PM	#21
lstzephyr Solo con rambo Joined: Jul 2006 Location: Huntsville, Al Oddometer: 1,713	one thing you might want to look into is a "transfer case" off a mitsubishi eclipse/eagle talon/plymouth laser/galant vr4. I had a galant vr4 transfer case in my talon that had a disconnect so it could be put in two wheel drive as opposed to four. I think it would work pretty well for something like this if set up right. It basically takes the drive and makes a 90 degree turn to the back of the car. Pretty strong too, some dsms can make big power(600-700-1000) and I haven't heard of too many transfer case problems. Never had a problem with mine and I estimated that car at 300. http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...p/IMG_7865.jpg __________________ Alan My ride reports 2000 Xr650r Supermoto/dualsport 1991 Dodge Oversize...err 250 4wd Diesel 1985 me lstzephyr screwed with this post 08-22-2008 at 09:14 PM

08-22-2008, 09:31 PM	#23
lstzephyr Solo con rambo Joined: Jul 2006 Location: Huntsville, Al Oddometer: 1,713	http://bendavies.home.comcast.net/%7...s/r75drive.gif I was thinking like that but other way around. __________________ Alan My ride reports 2000 Xr650r Supermoto/dualsport 1991 Dodge Oversize...err 250 4wd Diesel 1985 me

02-05-2009, 03:01 PM	#26
RedMenace Adventure Sidecar Joined: Dec 2001 Location: GoodLiver,Oregon,USA Oddometer: 4,867	Bump Larry Boy from Adventure Sidecar on Vimeo. __________________ the Red Menace "You are measured by how you ride by people who ride, and how you pose by people who pose." Alejo "Riders who get pissed off are doing it wrong." DAKEZ

02-05-2009, 04:36 PM	#27
Nixels Face fears - live life Joined: Sep 2006 Location: West Oakland, CA Oddometer: 7,386	Well? larryboy, larryboy? Anybody? __________________ Coffee first, then all your other mundane bullshit. Benjava That tofu will kill you, stay away from it. Soy is the devils bean! moe.ron SmugMug coupon: cwbkgu7KGL2D2/save $5

08-12-2008, 05:51 PM	#16
larryboy ^OP Paint it black. Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Über Alles,Ca Oddometer: 13,036	I'm not really thinking full time 2WD, I'm thinking more in the line of the Ural..engagable 2WD. I can't think of an easy way to get power from the chain driven motorcycle turned and into the pinion of a differential..much too complicated. Simple jackshaft with a Mobec style chain box to split power with an axle disconnect for the sidecar axle shaft. This kind is slick looking, but not easy to use. I don't want to be laying in the mud to engage the axle. I'll be going with some more like this, cable actuated and easy to engage from the seat of the bike. I know a guy that has experience building these for the rock crawl guys and Trail Tough in Oregon has a smaller one for the Suzuki Samurai that might be more suitable.

08-14-2008, 06:56 PM	#17
oppozit Banned Joined: Feb 2008 Oddometer: 341	Chain drive bike with sidecar drive - Norton Big Four. Instead of a differential, look at a viscous coupling. Essentially acts as a differential with an automatic difflock.

08-20-2008, 07:15 PM	#19
larryboy ^OP Paint it black. Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Über Alles,Ca Oddometer: 13,036	Well, after 3 months of back and forth with East Coast Wheel I finally got my parts back from their failed attempt to build me wheels. They totally suck as a vendor..lies,lies and more lies. I really wanted my rotors and rear sprocket back...finally I might make some progress. Viscous coupler donor vehicles? Subaru I'd imagine. I'll go to the auto recycler this weekend with the camera and look for donor parts.

08-22-2008, 09:23 PM	#22
larryboy ^OP Paint it black. Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Über Alles,Ca Oddometer: 13,036	Interesting, but I can't make it work in my head? Looks like they mounted the case at the front and the main tube shot to the back diff..I can't think of a way to make that work for me.

08-22-2008, 09:47 PM	#24
larryboy ^OP Paint it black. Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Über Alles,Ca Oddometer: 13,036	Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm needing to get the chain drive off the bike over to the right so a traditional transfer case divorce mounted would work and point the outputs the right directions.

09-07-2008, 10:44 AM	#25
danster Adventurer Joined: Jun 2006 Oddometer: 26	I don't have any experience with side cars or anything but am interested. Your problem with getting the drive over to the side car on the R/H side I think could be made simpler by using a single L/H sided swing arm (a large problem in itself) then mount a drive shaft flange to the to the wheel. Depending on if the diameter of the hack wheel and M/C wheel. If they are the same diameter and how far forward the hack wheel is in relation to the M/C wheel you could possibly just run cv joints on either end with a shaft coupler in the middle. Just a thought. Dan

02-09-2009, 10:22 PM	#29
Winterbiker Sidecarist Joined: Jan 2006 Oddometer: 255	Hi, lokk at this, this is a TWD conversion with reverse gear and a low reduction for all 6 gears you can fit to any motorcycle. http://wodka-murmansk.over-blog.com/...-27756286.html Click on the video. Attend the english sub titles. Winterbiker __________________ Your international SIDECAR MAGAZINE: www.sidecar-traveller.com Blog: http://sidecar-team.over-blog.de/ Orient-Project: http://transitusarabiae.wordpress.com/

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