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Old 09-24-2012, 02:39 AM   #271
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Advrider E365 has purchased the machine, his post is in the check your forks thread, the title docs will probably provide some leads but I am not familiar with how the US title documents work really

Perhaps it would be worthwhile asking the seller who he bought it from as it sounds like it was not from an insurance co
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:23 AM   #272
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GS Fork question

So, is the theory that the rider brakes hard and the force of the braking on the left fork causes some twisting and too much force for the right side fork and it splits/cracks, eventually failing?
Why else would the right side be more prone to failure?
Either way, crashing sucks donkey balls.
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Old 04-23-2014, 09:27 PM   #273
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Thanks for posting this. I was just about the buy the same year and model.
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Old 05-03-2014, 10:05 AM   #274
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So, is the theory that the rider brakes hard and the force of the braking on the left fork causes some twisting and too much force for the right side fork and it splits/cracks, eventually failing?
Why else would the right side be more prone to failure?
The theory is that BMW designed the parts too weak. BMW later improved the parts but retained the same part numbers. This part number game is exactly what GM is being castigated for regarding the defective ignition switches in the cars that caused fatal crashes.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:01 PM   #275
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Old 05-05-2014, 08:30 PM   #276
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Old 05-06-2014, 12:22 AM   #277
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PT Rider, the manner and timing of the ending of the NHTSA preliminary enquiry into the GS axle lug breakages was so strange it smelt of brown paper bags

Considering what is happening with GM it would be worthwhile US people raising questions over NHTSA handling of the GS failures at political levels
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Old 07-21-2014, 09:04 PM   #278
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In case anyone is still following this link....the NHTSA report.


http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...h&summary=true
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:25 AM   #279
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As for NHTSA, if you want a laugh I have copies of the pdf's on my web site and received a take down notice from ISO Stds body, it turns out one of the docs is simply the ISO STD for corrosion. I took that one down and told ISO to take to NHTSA as NHTSA is required to put up the submissions
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:14 PM   #280
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Do I need to wade in here? I've worked on some recalls and assorted automotive failures that got to recall status.

I've been poking around again, all signs point to the fact that no one can ID a solid, real cause for the failures, so there is legally nothing to recall. BMW responded properly, and NHTSA left open the avenue that the defect is undefined, which gives owners specific legal rights. If the defect was defined and a recall issued, all hell would break loose with people having to give up bikes until a solution was found and then the issue of replacements and so on.

Do I want to find out what the cause is? Yes. Actually, based on the failures I've seen pics of, it's what's known as a cold casting defect and is wickedly hard to track down. It only occurs on the startup of the casting line under certain conditions. Typically great care is taken to avoid having those parts get into the food chain, but if the vendor was not careful, it is possible a few could. So BMW redesigned and NHTSA closed.

Without more failures that look alike, it will not be possible for NHTSA to recall. Or for that matter, for BMW to completely and without question eliminate the defect.
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