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Old 05-24-2015, 07:39 AM   #1
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How should I preserve an old motorcycle?

The Odell Station on Route 66 was donated a 1988 Yamaha Route 66 Motorcycle. Since I am a member of the Illinois Rt. 66 Preservation Committee, I volunteered to build a stand with Plexiglas top to display it. I am building the display to last. I want to ensure the mechanicals of the bike are protected for 100 years.
Yeah, I started thinking too much about PRESERVATION.
So, how would you put a motorcycle to sleep for 100 years?

The donated Bike:
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Old 05-24-2015, 12:43 PM   #2
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I don't think it is a reasonable expectation . Not without periodic maintenance .
Maybe in a vacuum environment . Probably do better using it and maintaining it .
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Old 05-24-2015, 03:30 PM   #3
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Give it to me,I will ride the wheels off it.It will be many years before it is a museum piece.

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Old 05-24-2015, 11:49 PM   #4
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Well, eliminating oxidation would be the biggest challenge. Perhaps a sealed box with a dry oxygen free atmosphere? Large produce companies have been using oxygen free storage to delay fruit and vegetables from ripening...
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Old 05-25-2015, 12:19 AM   #5
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I think your time & money would be wasted on that bike

Drain ALL fluids..... spray liberally with ACF50 and keep your fingers crossed.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:30 AM   #6
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Just curious-what does Yamaha have to do with Route 66? Did all the Okies get on their Yamahas during the Dust Bowl to ride to California?
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Old 05-25-2015, 03:41 AM   #7
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Old 05-25-2015, 04:02 AM   #8
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Thanks for the replies, so far.
Yamaha named the XVZ250 as the "Route 66" for 1988,1989. This bike was donated to the Odell Standard Oil Station on Route 66. It was donated because it has "Route 66" on the fuel tank. The chances of this bike ever seeing the road again are extremely slim. But, I've spent my time as a Preservationist restoring what past generations have neglected and abandoned. This is my chance to be proactive. I don't expect the bike to start in 100 years without work. Hell in 100 years, there probably won't be any Dino Juice to fill the tank. So, I will do the best I can to protect a piece of history.
So far, I have drained the tank and carb, flushed the tank, removed the battery, changed oil, and washed the bike. I still need to wax and polish. I will also coat the inside of the fuel tank. I'm not sure about the oil. I changed it to remove the contaminated oil, but the new oil is only sitting in the sump. It may be better off empty. I don't know what to fog cylinders with that will last the longest. Nice idea of Nitrogen storage, but probably not feasible.
Got any more ideas?
A picture of the Odell Station.
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Old 05-25-2015, 07:07 AM   #9
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You might give these guys a call. Located near me, they have one of the world's largest collections of 100 year old motorcycles. None of them are in a plastic box...
http://motorcyclepediamuseum.org
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Old 05-25-2015, 07:08 AM   #10
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You may be asking the wrong crowd here. We all appreciate the enthusiasm about preserving history and engineering but these are a bunch of guys and gals that have a different "perspective" on preserving things. By that, I mean they preserve the spirit of the bikes and ride the snot out of them.
There's also a reason museums like Barber ride every bike in the museum every once in a while.
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Old 05-25-2015, 07:54 AM   #11
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The bike, whatever it's value, was made to operate and not sit. All the fluids, including brake fluid will deteriorate with time, yet they also keep seals and o-rings intact by being present in their fresh state.

A solution is to ride it once a month and change all fluids at least yearly. A ride of 50 or more miles would help for boiling off condensate from internal parts, over 100 would be better. At the latter figure it would have 120k in 100 years and probably work perfectly.

One thought is to offer a conservator position for the bike, someone who would take care of it and donate towards its continued heath and wants a tax deduction for an agreed value. They could come in once a month to take it for a ride, clean it up and wheel it back into place. Perhaps a local Vo-Tech class could do the maintenance as a training exercise.
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Old 05-25-2015, 09:44 AM   #12
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Many 100 year old bikes survive today , and some are ridden .
The obstacle to keeping a 1988 bike til 2088 and beyond is that much of it is made from synthetic materials ; materials which constantly out-gas until the part finally cracks and loses its strength . Bikes that were built 100 years ago were made mostly of metal , and the other bits have been replaced .
I won't get into the worthyness issue , but suggest resources may be better spent by selling the bike and with the proceeds buying items more easily preserved . Maybe keep a photo of the bike .

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Old 05-25-2015, 10:10 AM   #13
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Fill the motor with clean oil. Not just the recomended amount. Fill it to the top of the filler hole.
Other than that. Treat it as if it were some fine marajuana. Keep it out of sunlight, keep it cold and keep it sealed up so the air doesn't change.

But, the truth is the bike has no real connection to the road. It's just a marketing ploy and is that worth saving ?
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Old 05-25-2015, 09:07 PM   #14
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A bike named Route 66, in a shrine to Route 66. Makes sense to me.
Museums, shrines, whatever depend on attracting visitors.
Could help, won't hurt.
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Old 05-26-2015, 09:12 PM   #15
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Build a big wooden form and start filling it up with clear casting resin. Do the same to a gallon of fresh fuel, so in a hundred years a scientist can have their Jurassic park moment, unleashing a virago 250 on an otherwise electric world.
















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