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Old 11-02-2009, 08:20 AM   #421
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I'm very interested, mainly for the motor, but am hoping they make a few minor appearance changes up front.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:46 AM   #422
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i don't get what ducati is doing here with this bike.
the rider didn't just randomly go down this dirt road and then randomly get air.
also the rider didn't just randomly start wearing off-road gear.

if they are trying to portray it can be riden offroad then why design a bike with wheels in sizes that are near impossible to get dual sport tires. the uli & versys are the same way.

it's kinda like saying here's a bike for some dirt. now you figure out how the hell you're gonna get some decent tires. ducati is trying to have it both ways. it's offroad like a gs, yet has road tires for that too. the designers need to pick the segment it belongs too and build it properly for that.

if ducati has apsirations of owners taking it on dirt roads then the bike should have the same size wheels as the gs, so the proper tires can be used. spokes are not a necessity but that means 110-19" front, 150-17" rear, period. those pirelli 17" small knobbie mottard tires that wear out in 2000 miles don't cut it.

these pics are a publicity stunt & nothing more.
look at ducati's teaser on the intro of the new strada.
dirt road is also show.
nothing has changed in the focus of this new multistrada.

now i feel sorry for a clueless noob future owner who thinks they bought a dual sport and then goes to upgrade the tires.
no different than all the noob suprises uli & versys owners get, when they find out the bike has street bike wheels.

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Old 11-02-2009, 12:01 PM   #423
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agreed. that should have been the inspiration/focus direction of this new bike. using 19" front tire does not take that much corning performance out of the bike.

all ducati produced is another half faired standard-styled street bike.
like triumph, ducati doesn't get it.


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Too bad we don't get the Moto Morini Granpasso over here...

http://www.cycleworld.com/article.as...article_id=656

Well, unless some financial angel rescues Moto Morini, no one will be getting the Granpasso. Another one bites the dust...

http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/29...ry-liquidation
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:28 PM   #424
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all ducati produced is another half faired standard-styled LONG TRAVEL SUSPENSION street bike.
like triumph, ducati doesn't get it.
fixed it for you.They might get it. Triumph probably sold a bunch of tigers and this might sell ok. I know i wont go back to a sport bike when they make a sport bike with longer legs. If i wanted a big ds bike i wouldn't think about any of them ,or a 6oo lbs gs for that matter. Thats why god gave us ktm and the 21 inch front wheel
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:51 PM   #425
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All this angst over what the marketing droids are doing with the introduction of the new Multistrada has me scratching my head. Are you actually worried that some clueless buyer will buy this for a dirt bike by mistake? It's a Multistrada. They've been around for years. If it doesn't fulfill your desires as an adventure tourer, move on. The designers obviously didn't have that in mind regardless of how it's being presented.

In fact, if the mods would put this thread over in Road Warriors, where it belongs, we wouldn't even be talking about it. The old MS didn't have an identity crisis.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:28 PM   #426
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Amen

Well said. This looks like it will perform really sweet on the road, maybe even a bumpy road. Thats all most big trailies do anyway. Ducati knows that, other wise the bike wouldn't be putting out the HP to the rear wheel with a 17" Scorpion on it, right??
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:41 PM   #427
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Well said. This looks like it will perform really sweet on the road, maybe even a bumpy road. Thats all most big trailies do anyway. Ducati knows that, other wise the bike wouldn't be putting out the HP to the rear wheel with a 17" Scorpion on it, right??
Yes. Everyone wanted a Ducati answer to the GS, well most GS's are used as just tourers. Ducati recognizes this and is actually more realistic by not giving you a 19" front. To me, the MS is more of a sit-up sport tourer like the 990 SMT.

Oh and BTY mods, why are we still calling this the Strada Aperta?
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:41 PM   #428
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.. and the mini Hypermotard style beak I've seen elsewhere isn't very appealing in pics, at least.

In 10 days all will be revealed.
Agreed....doesn't look like the most poetic Duc I've seen....maybe their holding onto something for Milan.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:22 PM   #429
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come on dude. open your eyes & read between the lines.

these leaked/spyshot pics in the dirt are no accident.
nor is the dirt gear the guy is wearing, nor the dirt road shown in the website teaser.
ducati wants a small taste of the expanding dirt market yet didn't really commit.

atleast triumph said flat out the tiger is a street bike.

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All this angst over what the marketing droids are doing with the introduction of the new Multistrada has me scratching my head. Are you actually worried that some clueless buyer will buy this for a dirt bike by mistake? It's a Multistrada. They've been around for years. If it doesn't fulfill your desires as an adventure tourer, move on. The designers obviously didn't have that in mind regardless of how it's being presented.

In fact, if the mods would put this thread over in Road Warriors, where it belongs, we wouldn't even be talking about it. The old MS didn't have an identity crisis.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:26 PM   #430
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by handicaping something you make it better?
a 19" front wheel would give the owner the option to decide how to use it.


the strom is no great dual sport by any stretch, expecially stock.
for the most part it's a street bike...
but suzuki atleast provided it the correct beast size wheels for DS tires.
a foundation was laid & then from there the aftermarket came in with the rest.
sure most don't take theirs off-road but atleast the option is there for those owners who desire to.

ducati is a street bike company dabling in this adv riding thing.

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Yes. Everyone wanted a Ducati answer to the GS, well most GS's are used as just tourers. Ducati recognizes this and is actually more realistic by not giving you a 19" front. To me, the MS is more of a sit-up sport tourer like the 990 SMT.

Oh and BTY mods, why are we still calling this the Strada Aperta?
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:34 PM   #431
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or if suzuki stepped up and made a 650 strom adv model like this.
i'd upgrade in a second.

it'll be interesting to see how other mfg respond to the upcoming yami super tenere.

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Too bad we don't get the Moto Morini Granpasso over here...

http://www.cycleworld.com/article.as...article_id=656

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http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/29...ry-liquidation
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:29 PM   #432
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come on dude. open your eyes & read between the lines.


I don't need to read between the lines. I don't really care what they call it. It's a new version of the old Multistrada. It's a sport bike. Go to their web site, that's what they call it. If pictures of a guy doing jumps in the dirt impresses you then, there's no hope. I thought that most of the people here cut through all the marketing crap and judged a bike by it's engineering.

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by handicaping something you make it better?
a 19" front wheel would give the owner the option to decide how to use it.
Proves my point. The engineers thought they were designing a sport bike.


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Old 11-02-2009, 05:41 PM   #433
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A little more info released here...

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Old 11-02-2009, 06:02 PM   #434
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Wicked "Rocks" model

Looks like they may address every market...
http://www.motorcycle-journal.com/20...tistrada-1200/

"When rumors of the Multistrada 1200 name plate first broke , there was mention of 4 distinct models in the range. Aside from the usual standard and Ohlins equipped ‘S’ models there is to be a ‘T’ (touring) model with hard saddle bags and a taller screen and, get this, an ‘R’ model. Contrary to what you might think, the ‘R’ model stands for ‘Rocks’ sports a 19? front wheel in line with it’s more serious off road abilities. "
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:19 PM   #435
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Looks like they may address every market...
http://www.motorcycle-journal.com/20...tistrada-1200/

"When rumors of the Multistrada 1200 name plate first broke , there was mention of 4 distinct models in the range. Aside from the usual standard and Ohlins equipped ‘S’ models there is to be a ‘T’ (touring) model with hard saddle bags and a taller screen and, get this, an ‘R’ model. Contrary to what you might think, the ‘R’ model stands for ‘Rocks’ sports a 19? front wheel in line with it’s more serious off road abilities. "
Now I'm really interested
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