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Old 01-16-2010, 01:49 AM   #946
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A couple of interesting tidbits from a Cdn mc show yesterday...
A Canadian Ducati rep won't be getting trained on the 1200MS till March,
when he's off to Italy for mechanical/technical instruction.

When asked, he reminded me that the 1198 motor is rated at 170hp at the crank, so according to the listed 150 crank hp rating of the 1200MS motor, it allowed them a full 20hp to trim, to boost bottom and midrange torque figures and still retain a highly respectable/intoxicating rated output...

Ah to be a savy urbane professional, with the resources to consider the 1200MS or the new dohc BMW GS, perhaps the upcoming Yamaha 1200 Tenere', 1100 EVO Hypermotard...

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Old 01-16-2010, 09:24 AM   #947
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When asked, he reminded me that the 1198 motor is rated at 170hp at the crank, so according to the listed 150 crank hp rating of the 1200MS motor, it allowed them a full 20hp to trim, to boost bottom and midrange torque figures and still retain a highly respectable/intoxicating rated output...
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the best thing they did was changing the setup so that the low rpm fueling was smooth compared to the other bikes in the lineup with that mill. As a dirtbike loving horsepower addicted and decidely un urbane moto enthusiast i hope ktm can do the same for its 1200 adv
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:43 AM   #948
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The more competition in this lucrative segment the better, the manufacturers have little choice but to step up to the plate with competent offerings, or lose sales to their competitors. The road biased 1200MS had so much room to reconfigure the torque curve/output, while still retaining immense peak figures, along with including selectable mapping choices for it's tech hungry potential customers.

How smooth and glitch free the fueling will be in upcoming press riding impressions, road reports etc., will be a crucial ingredient in it's initial acceptance and potential sales success. Lot's of exciting bikes to look forward to in this genre...

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Old 01-16-2010, 10:46 AM   #949
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Graemsay, thanks for the heads-up. Your review was useful - sounds like they aren't allowing test rides ? Gotta wait till march till its near me - my attention span doesn't las....t..... th....at.... what was I saying ?

I had thought they'd have made a few before they started releasing all the blurb. Sign of the times I suppose.

Bit pricey but I'd love to have a go in 150 bhp mode
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:01 PM   #950
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The Multistrada on display is the only one in the UK, so Ducati didn't even let the dealer have the keys!

Besides, it was pretty snowy and icy in Manchester last weekend. I don't think that they'd want to risk it. (Though it was the touring model with heated grips... )
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:39 PM   #951
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The Multistrada on display is the only one in the UK, so Ducati didn't even let the dealer have the keys!

Besides, it was pretty snowy and icy in Manchester last weekend. I don't think that they'd want to risk it. (Though it was the touring model with heated grips... )
Well thats plain silly. Anyway I bet my Uly would leave it behind in the twisties - my ol S1 Buell (80 bhp at rw) easily kept up with a 1198R during some spirited riding - so my Uly gonna kick its ass (I hope).

I want one really, just bitter & twisted that I can't get a test ride.

The whole MTS thing is beginning to sound a bit gay - no test rides !
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:53 PM   #952
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I want one really, just bitter & twisted that I can't get a test ride.

The whole MTS thing is beginning to sound a bit gay - no test rides !
Ducati's no different than it's competitors, in the availability of a new production model for test rides. The routine, spring factory distributer supported test ride agenda, will feature the 1200MS if all's well with the production line output...

Hell, just be glad you'll be able to see a preproduction example at the trade shows, or dealer premieres.
Canada didn't even receive a 1200MS, for our cross country MC trade show series.

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Old 01-16-2010, 03:12 PM   #953
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I'd love one too. But anything more expensive than a banana will have to wait
Ray its people like you that are going to keep our economy from getting back on its feet. The American economy depends on people spending and using credit. Now stop being unpatriotic and go get yourself a multi. Do it for the country!
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:03 PM   #954
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Ray its people like you that are going to keep our economy from getting back on its feet. The American economy depends on people spending and using credit. Now stop being unpatriotic and go get yourself a multi. Do it for the country!

Either that, or selling their pets and girlfriends into slavery.

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Old 01-17-2010, 05:27 AM   #955
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It's odd now that the BMW GS is now one of the "cheap" options.
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Old 01-17-2010, 06:33 AM   #956
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wel no you can get a rolls cheap.
now a jet plane you need to be rich.
Not anymore! How does $60K sound for your own jet?

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Old 01-17-2010, 09:34 AM   #957
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The Multistrada on display is the only one in the UK, so Ducati didn't even let the dealer have the keys!
Similar issue right now in the US with BMW's S1000RR...the manufacturer is trying to maintain a level playing field for all dealerships. Getting everyone supplied with floor stock and demos ready to ride at precisely the same moment is not easy. Dealers here are starting to get the S1000RR for display...keys will arrive later so they can drop the sales gate simultaneously.
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:29 AM   #958
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Considering the quality level of the electrical systems that they provide us in the past I will give a free advice…

DON’T EVER EVER WASH THAT BIKE !

Price in Greece
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15980 base
16980 ABS
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:34 AM   #959
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A few photos from the DC Bike Show:





I was less impressed than I expected. The bike has a few vulnerable, trip stopping parts, and is cramped. Might make a great street bike, but I doubt it is really suited for adventure riding.

Just my impression!

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Old 01-17-2010, 11:38 AM   #960
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It's odd now that the BMW GS is now one of the "cheap" options.
Perhaps the F800GS, but with the 1200MS base, base with abs, and the two Sport models, they're in the same ballpark as the boxer series, with their base GS and up pricing... I don't think anyone expected a 1198 based Multi, to be a budget alternative in the adv class.

Get over it, and buy one paul thompson !
Or don't bring your wallet, to the spring's demo days...

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