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Old 09-19-2008, 10:57 PM   #16
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Treat them like everyone else.

Don't fear them. Don't disrespect them. Just pass them and move on.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:37 PM   #17
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Just stay away from them. They don't want to be bothered by you and you don't want to be bothered by them. They have their own world. Probably a whole lot easier to stay out of it.
Sounds like the advice my momma gave me when I was messing around with hornets and bees, etc.

O' course, I still got stung by one a couple weeks ago.

Yep, I was messing with 'em.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:56 PM   #18
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doesn't look like you acknowledged them as you went by...typical BMW/Harley rider ...i passed a BMW rider today, in traffic, and didn't get so much as a wave/nod/foot-off. the guy treated me like i was just another cage...which is kind of "fuck off" imo. not overtly...but implicit.


a little disarming friendliness goes a long way...they probably took your lack of a leader-wave as a "fuck you" signal...sometimes it can be.

next time as you pass the lead, give a YES nod or a wave and see how well it is taken. HA guys aren't gonna go out of their way to fuck with you...their reputation precedes them and if you show them you're a friendly, you should be fine.

oh and going WFO for a few seconds once past is a smarter move than allowing some cage to catch up with you...but, you're on a GSA...i understand the low speed.

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Old 09-20-2008, 04:38 AM   #19
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Had a couple hundred Hells Angels in town two weekends ago. They took over a local motel & had support vehicles with BBQ smokers, tents etc. Looked like a convention. The cops messed with them endlessly. Don't know if they had a reason or just wanted to make sure that they did not feel welcome. If that was the case, I'm sure they succeeded. At one point there were five state troopers with a roadblock setup near the entrance to the motel. They stopped everyone who came through.

My only personal contact with them was at a liquor store. One of them held the door open for me to enter & said, "How are you today sir?" & told me to have a nice day. Very polite...didn't know he was a Hell's Angel until I had passed him & noticed the patch on his vest. Rarely see those guys around here.
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Old 09-20-2008, 05:32 AM   #20
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So you meet a couple of ass-bites and now everyone on a Harley is trouble.

Grow up and get over it.
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Old 09-20-2008, 06:00 AM   #21
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Know who you are dealing with.

Thugs like the HA enjoy riding en masse so that they can speed, run red lights, and pretty do anything they want when it comes to traffic laws.

One time in the Sturgis area during the Rally, I witnessed 100 or so HA on Interstate 90, traveling at approx 90 - 100 mph, with a South Dakota State Cop following, lights flashing, siren blaring.
None of the HA were pulling over.

The HA are about fear & intimidation. Not all that different than Mafiosi thugs.

Realize that contact with groups such as the HA can & often is detrimental to ones health & well being.

Pass them and keep going. Don't wave. Don't nod. Don't blink.
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Old 09-20-2008, 07:39 AM   #22
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The advice is smart...but it angers me. That's percisely what they want! Ooooooo fear me! Thank god we can pack hear in AZ...i might get dead, but I'll have fookin company.
I'd give the same advice and space to any large group of riders.

Group ethos, group mentality......why waste the time or energy f'in with something that is not in your self interest.

Kind of a shame that so many have negative feelings, thugs, mafiaso, et al, about something you know so little about. Try to keep a open mind, be respectful, mind your manners, and be friendly...that'll take you far with lots of people.

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Old 09-20-2008, 07:53 AM   #23
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We were coming thru SF area last Monday also when they were burying the H A that was murdered. They were everywhere! Lotsa chapters! So were the cops! Wise up and just ride your own ride! Since you elected to pass or weave around them you shoulda made FOOOOKIN sure you stayed out ahead of them! Not saying being scared of certain bikers. Just common sense! Your next encounter may be a Mongrel and the outcome maybe be different? Who knows? Just ride and have fast, safe, fun!
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Old 09-20-2008, 08:51 AM   #24
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Don't fear them. Don't disrespect them. Just pass them and move on.
+1. This and maybe a cordial wave.

All this hard guy bullshit being spewed here is laughable.
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Old 09-20-2008, 09:06 AM   #25
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I ride both an HD and a Yamaha FZ1. I always show courtesy to any one on two wheels. There is some aholes who just because they ride a Harley feel superior to every one else. I show up to bike nights on one of my two bikes and walk around w/ no problem.
Give the "out law" type the room they need and move on; they will not hesitate to smack you if they fell "disrespected", specially when there is a few of them.

Ride on!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-20-2008, 09:43 AM   #26
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Me: 20 years old on a GPz750 Turbo. Headed back to Boston from South Bend, IN on the interstate. Somewhere flat with lots of corn fields. Boost hissing away at 110 mph. Chin on the tank bag. Making time.

Them: At least 40 idiots on Harleys going 65. Using both lanes. Wearing colors.

I didn't even slow down. Split them like a hot knife through butter and kept whistling Eastward. Checked to make sure I had enough gas to go a while.

Not sure if I would do that today, which is a shame.

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Old 09-20-2008, 10:11 AM   #27
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Whether it's H.A., or any other 'tight' group, bear in mind they will gang up on you, that's why they are in a group, because they can't do shite on their own. I've had situations where they are great guys, doing favours for accossiates of them. But they are allied to them first. Stay away from them, very good advice. They have connections which can be used to find you anywhere based on your vehicle plate.
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:08 AM   #28
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In as much as I would never support criminal activity...

I gotta say I feel slightly (very slightly) better about outlaw MC groups that those HOG patched groups.

I mean WTF is that about??

'Im no criminal, I dont really even ride much more than 2 sunday afternoons a month...'
'But when I do LOOK OUT! Cause Ima pretend criminal.. ARGHH!
And my co-workers brother knows a guy who is a real HA... '

Avoid the outlaw patch for personal saftey - criminal
Avoid the HOG patch for personal saftey - rider experience

*disclaimer
Apologies to the active riders, who are involved in HOG and actually RIDE.
Even tho I still dont get the 'pretend MC patch thing'
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:31 AM   #29
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I was riding down the 101 the first week I got my new 1200 GSA Adv and I came up on a pack of Harleys with guys wearing Hells Angels jackets. . . When the opportunity to pass came again I put the speed of my bike to the test for the first time and I put a couple of miles between them and I for safety's sake.

Is there an unwritten rule as to etiquette when it comes to passing a harley or a hells angel?
Your are lucky the final drive on the GS did not go out on you then the Hells Angels would have caught you an beat your ass.
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:44 AM   #30
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In as much as I would never support criminal activity...

I gotta say I feel slightly (very slightly) better about outlaw MC groups that those HOG patched groups.

I mean WTF is that about??

'Im no criminal, I dont really even ride much more than 2 sunday afternoons a month...'
'But when I do LOOK OUT! Cause Ima pretend criminal.. ARGHH!
And my co-workers brother knows a guy who is a real HA... '

Avoid the outlaw patch for personal saftey - criminal
Avoid the HOG patch for personal saftey - rider experience

*disclaimer
Apologies to the active riders, who are involved in HOG and actually RIDE.
Even tho I still dont get the 'pretend MC patch thing'
+100

We had the provincial pretend outlaw pirate convention here last month.
Many riders I know left town so they wouldn't have to deal with the stupidity.
Real "bikers" aren't much of an issue. Respect is respect. If you don't give them reason to mess with you, they won't.
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