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Old 11-07-2009, 10:35 AM   #31
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Ujoint Failure

I currently have a 05 R1200GS with a ticking noise at the front U joint.
I have torn it down and am trying to get the driveshaft out to inspect it.
The rear boot does have a crack in it so I suspect it got wet

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Old 12-02-2010, 10:36 AM   #32
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The pinion seal on my '05 GS just let go at 41k miles. Pulled it all apart yesterday and the rear u-joint is going bad (it's stiff in one direction). Perhaps the vibration from the u-joint caused the pinion seal to fail? But why are these driveshafts failing so early? It's the exact same design as what's in my 540, except smaller. The driveshaft in my 540 (with the original non-servicable u-joints) went 230k miles before needing a rebuild.
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:30 AM   #33
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This should have nothing to do with lubing the front splines since the splines are locked by the C-clip. The rear splines move just a tiny bit for any needed compensation.

If I had to guess I would suggest the front U-joints were improperly lubed at assembly which caused them to fail.

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U-joint phasing?
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:41 PM   #34
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U-joint phasing?
The hexheads have one piece drive shafts that include the U-joints. The U-joints will only be out of phase if manufactured that way.
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Old 12-02-2010, 04:06 PM   #35
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The PO of my '05 had the drive shaft replaced, I'm thinking at around 40k miles.
I prefer the devil I know in chain & sprockets but since big block GS's don't roll that way I've adjusted.
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:18 AM   #36
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u-joint, i-joint, we-all-joint

front u-joint tanked at 60000 something km's (37282 miles)
05 r1200gs adventure

I bought mine second-hand from a dealership (belgium) only 8 months ago. Put 25000 km on it and tanked it. A few short runs offroad (offroad is hard to find here and i'm too short to keep this bike under control on slippery surfaces). No accidents, regular maintenance.

- bought the bike (35k)
- Noted the problem of a dragging back-wheel (suggested the brake at first) to the dealer. He assured me this was no problem i needed to worry about. just something to check up on regularly (55k)
- Noted the problem again on next maintenance interval. A rough/stiff shaft/joints were noted by the dealer. He lubed the parts as a hope-it-holds solution. (60k)
- Got stuck a few weeks later. Wheel barely rolls. Needed two hands to turn it. Dealer noted tanked u-joint and picked it up. (60+k)

Should my dealer cover this under warranty?
Dealer sold me the bike with a one year warranty in the spring of 2011.
Strictly speaking and not taking into account the miles i put on the bike, this should be warranty.

my personal thoughts right now:
a bike worth 20k should not break after 60k.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:41 AM   #37
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The driveshaft is supposed to be changed at 40k kms as a maintenance item....
though i believe this factoid rarely traveled out of Germany.
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:52 AM   #38
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Interesting..But

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The driveshaft is supposed to be changed at 40k kms as a maintenance item....
though i believe this factoid rarely traveled out of Germany.
OK, I will bite...where did you get this information? Sorry but this doesn't ring true...
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:31 AM   #39
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I got it from the gentleman in Germany who runs this site.....he is very knowledgeable about all things on 2 wheels.

http://www.zabernet.de/bill/tuning.html

as I recall there was a german dealer memo which stated it. I think I posted it several years ago....on ADV.
This was when I was interested in riding a BMW......I did my research and punted. The integral damper and drive shaft
is a maintenance item, to be replaced at 40k kms.

I'm a chain drive with a scottoiler person now....
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Old 03-08-2012, 01:20 PM   #40
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Since no-one changes a R1200GS drive shaft until it or a U-joint on it breaks and there are lots and lots of R12GS with more than 40K Km on the odometer that have never changed a drive shaft I don't place much stock in that claim.

I pulled my drive shaft at 60K miles (just under 100K Km) just because I was curious as to its condition. Also, it is an easy job. The results: it looked new.



The U-joints felt fine, too.
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Old 03-08-2012, 01:36 PM   #41
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I am a new GS owner and final drive/shaft issues seem to be a re-occurring event, that is scaring the s^%t out of me. You can buy a complete rear axle gear case for a Yamaha Super Tenere for $750.
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Old 03-08-2012, 01:47 PM   #42
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"a bike worth 20k should not break after 60k. "

a bike with 37000 miles on it prolly isn't worth 20K anymore, even less with busted bits
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Old 03-08-2012, 02:21 PM   #43
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Since no-one changes a R1200GS drive shaft until it or a U-joint on it breaks and there are lots and lots of R12GS with more than 40K Km on the odometer that have never changed a drive shaft I don't place much stock in that claim.

I pulled my drive shaft at 60K miles (just under 100K Km) just because I was curious as to its condition. Also, it is an easy job. The results: it looked new.



The U-joints felt fine, too.

The damper also wears and can not be serviced.....which was the point of the 40k kms bulletin.
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Old 03-08-2012, 02:54 PM   #44
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The driveshaft is supposed to be changed at 40k kms as a maintenance item....
though i believe this factoid rarely traveled out of Germany.
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Old 03-08-2012, 03:44 PM   #45
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The driveshaft is supposed to be changed at 40k kms as a maintenance item....
though i believe this factoid rarely traveled out of Germany.
All that quote means is, Don't be surprised if it goes tits up just after warranty expires.
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