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Old 07-20-2009, 08:39 PM   #301
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If everyone in the world lived their lives happy with the 80th percentile, then we would be living in a socialist utopia where Ferraris and Ducati 1198's would not exist, and where we all would drown in mediocrity. I was not careful enough when I wrote that they both do the same thing. They both roll down the road in similar ways because they are both motorcycles, but that's where it ends. They provide a very different experience when pushed hard. Don't misunderstand me, I have nothing against a 1200R nor anyone that really likes theirs because it's a fine bike, but some things just appeal to some in a very different way, and for me, who has experienced their second or third decade of motorcycle (or collector car, etc) ownership and has owned a hundred different motorcycles, it's perhaps natural to desire something that's really unique with a radical price to bolts and features ratio but that just makes you excited whenever you see it and makes you want to go out and loft the front wheel and really ride it, it's worth the money.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:01 PM   #302
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My apologies. I guess I'm just not as good a rider as you. After 35 years of riding various bikes myself, and now owning both the MM and R12R, amongst other bikes, I just don't feel that much of a difference.

Perhaps I should just sell them both and go ride a KLR with the other socialist masses.
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:16 PM   #303
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Well I can't say I'm that surprised, because on paper, and from a basic engineering perspective, they are remarkably close. It isn't as if you're comparing a screaming 4 sport bike to a single pot trail bike, you're comparing two essentially similar sit up and beg boxers to each other. One is a bit more light hearted and fun, the other a bit practical and sensible, but in the end what makes you happy is what makes you happy, and thats different for everyone.
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Old 07-20-2009, 11:32 PM   #304
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My apologies. I guess I'm just not as good a rider as you. After 35 years of riding various bikes myself, and now owning both the MM and R12R, amongst other bikes, I just don't feel that much of a difference.

Perhaps I should just sell them both and go ride a KLR with the other socialist masses.
You're probably not, but I don't know if you should be sorry about that one. KLR's are great bikes also but aren't you being a little hard on yourself? Now that I think about it, I couldn't tell much of a difference between the Ducati GT1000 touring or the Hypermotard either...
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Old 07-21-2009, 05:23 AM   #305
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Summer ride

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Looking forward to the photo's already though
So after 2600Km (and another drop of the bike ) I'm back. I went all the the way through the northern Portugal, Galicia, Asturias and a bit of the Basque Country. Fantastic scenary and even better roads!!!!

Here are some photos, just in case you're curious.
http://s565.photobucket.com/albums/s...mer_ride_2009/

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Old 07-21-2009, 11:34 AM   #306
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Screens - Haven't been able to source one yet.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:37 AM   #307
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Hi all - I was thrilled to find this thread since there's so little info out there on the MM. It looks like the bike will do everything I need - and it's far sexier than the GS I was considering (still am). My only concern is the tank range. How far do you go on a tank (stock tank) when riding normal freeway and spirited?

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By drilling 3 or 4 holes (10mm) into the filler neck, I now go around 100 miles before the light comes on and can go around 130 - 140 miles on a tank. I can squeeze 150 if it's getting desperate, by riding very very steadily for the last 40 miles or so.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:40 AM   #308
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So after 2600Km (and another drop of the bike ) I'm back. I went all the the way through the northern Portugal, Galicia, Asturias and a bit of the Basque Country. Fantastic scenary and even better roads!!!!

Here are some photos, just in case you're curious.
http://s565.photobucket.com/albums/s...mer_ride_2009/
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:24 PM   #309
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During breakin I was getting 45-48 mpg. Not to bad.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:30 PM   #310
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Joe, thanks for the link, my screen ordred!
Also can you show pics of these -
3 or 4 holes (10mm) into the filler neck

It's been a long time since I had a bike (13 years!) but I'm thinking that around 120-140 miles is a good distance for a natural break anyway? You've already done several really long trips on yours, did the range bother you a lot?
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:42 PM   #311
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Bruno, you sure you weren't in California?

Lovely pix, and lovely ride it looks too - can't wait to get out on mine!

This looks just like the Central Coast between LA & SF!

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Old 07-22-2009, 12:34 AM   #312
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It's been a long time since I had a bike (13 years!) but I'm thinking that around 120-140 miles is a good distance for a natural break anyway? You've already done several really long trips on yours, did the range bother you a lot?
The only time the range worries me is when I've got no fuel left . I have been down to just 2 miles showing left on the range and it was there for a mile or two as well . That was in rural France where fuel stations can be difficult to find. Same thing happened on my Rockster this year in France, no open or working fuel station for 45 miles, crossed into Spain on vapour and 3 open within 2 miles

The range countdown on the MM seems accurate though, so I've run it down to single figures on numerous occasions now. The range before drilling the tank neck did irritate me, but it's not bad now. Not bad enough to buy an extra tank anyway, which whilst useful and well made, spoil the openess of the lines of the bike for me.

Drilling the filler neck is simple enough, just 4 holes, the thing you need to take care with is removing the filler neck out of the tank as the fuel level sensor is attached. Nothing difficult, just need to take a little care and not force anything that doesn't want to be forced.

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Old 07-22-2009, 02:59 AM   #313
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This was asked on UKGS'er a while back and I posted the results here as well but have now updated them. From what I can see the last Megamoto was built in November 2008.

BMW have confirmed a figure of 2,910 HP2 Enduro's were built, and from my checks it seems that 1,732 HP2 Megamoto's have been built, with only 107 of thse being US spec.

You can check your frame number at RealOEM -

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/select.do...&kind=M&arch=0

HP2 Enduro -

The earliest Euro spec HP2 Enduro VIN number I can find is - ZL00000 showing as an August 2004 build date.

The latest Euro spec HP2 Enduro VIN number recognised on RealOEM.com is - ZL02516 showing as an August 2006 build date.

The earliest US spec HP2 Enduro VIN number I can find is - ZL10000 showing as an August 2004 build date.

The latest US spec HP2 Enduro frame number recognised is - ZL10392 showing as an August 2006 build date.

HP2 Megamoto -

The earliest Euro spec HP2 Megamoto VIN number I can find is ZT95000 showing as an August 2006 build date.

The latest Euro spec HP2 Megamoto frame number recognised is - ZT96625 showing as a July 2008 build date.

The earliest US spec HP2 Megamoto I can find is ZK99500 showing as an August 2006 build date.

The latest US spec VIN HP2 Megamoto I can find is ZK99606 showing as a November 2008 build date.


RealOEM's daabase goes up to February 2009, and whilst I can find other models with later build dates than November 2008, the last Megamoto would seem to have been built then. So just over half as many Megamoto's around as the Enduro's.

I don't have the figures for the HP2 Sport.

For the HP2S, I could found these info but...

EU : from ZS50020 (2007/01) to ZS61314 (2009/04) ==> range of 11.295 units
US : from ZS61315 (2007/02) to ZS70189 (2009/04) ==> range of 8.875 units

http://www.bmw-z1.com/VIN/VINdecode-e.cgi
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:08 AM   #314
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For the HP2S, I could found these info but...

EU : from ZS50020 (2007/01) to ZS61314 (2009/04) ==> range of 11.295 units
US : from ZS61315 (2007/02) to ZS70189 (2009/04) ==> range of 8.875 units

http://www.bmw-z1.com/VIN/VINdecode-e.cgi
That looks a like lot of bikes, compared to the Enduro and Megamoto??
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Old 07-22-2009, 05:21 AM   #315
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yes, I don't know how much this hyperlink is valid ?

But it gives exact info for my MM.

I suppose that the range is locked even if all the bikes haven't been build ?
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