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Old 12-26-2012, 12:01 PM   #8311
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Moving on to chains, sprockets, brakes, carb rebuilds and valves
I don't know what work you need to do on your carburettors, but I cannot speak too highly of Berrymans carburettor cleaner in a can. Get it at auto parts stores. I have not yet seen a carburettor that cannot be recovered by soaking in that stuff. It cleans out the nastiest of old gasoline varnish.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:13 PM   #8312
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:23 PM   #8313
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It is very piquant.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:42 PM   #8314
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I've always just soaked them in 50/50 pinesol and water mix for a few hours.

A dab of seafoam never hurt either.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:47 PM   #8315
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I've always just soaked them in 50/50 pinesol and water mix for a few hours.

Wow, that works well. I left the carb soaking overnight.
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:02 PM   #8316
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I've always just soaked them in 50/50 pinesol and water mix for a few hours.
All depends on the extremity of the crud that is left behind. That mix will likely work very well for what HBL is attempting.

The Berrymans will remove varnish accrued from 20 years of improper storage in 30 mins. It is splendid stuff. Don't get it on yer though.
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:25 PM   #8317
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"Attempting" is a very good description Having fun though!

No experience with carbs so went looking for as close to a plug-n-play solution as I could find. A friend suggested http://www.6sigmajetkit.com/. Also, Heinen's highly recommended Sierra for the carb cleaner. So, we'll see how all of that works out.

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All depends on the extremity of the crud that is left behind. That mix will likely work very well for what HBL is attempting.

The Berrymans will remove varnish accrued from 20 years of improper storage in 30 mins. It is splendid stuff. Don't get it on yer though.
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:53 PM   #8318
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Well, having fun is the main thing. Is the bike not running? What is the reason for the jet kit, or is it a complete set of parts and gaskets etc?

It looks like that kit is based around increasing performance - is that what you want to do, or do you just want to get the bike running right? If so I would tend towards getting the bike running properly with basically a stock set up, and then mess with performance later if it really needs it.
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Old 12-26-2012, 02:07 PM   #8319
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Okay, we have our very first 0mpg crash...within seconds of kickstand disengagement...DirtBike Tech, here we come

Thanks for the tire mounting tips...practice, step back, more practice, paitience, practice, beer, practice, beer, practice, screw that!!! Nice folks at Heinen's Motorsports.

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When I lived closer to Waldochs I used to let them handle the tire changes. I think it was $5/per mounted and balanced and the old tire recycled. Other than having the on trail skill I saw no reason to break a sweat

Are you going to go to class with them?
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:02 PM   #8320
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Intent is simply to get both bikes mechanically sound and dependable so we can focus on learning this spring, not repairing the damn things. One bike runs okay, the other has something going on....rev the engine and it takes forever to return to idle, and it periodically leaks gas from the hose exiting the bottom of the carb, especially after those 0mph crashes .

As I understand, the kit is primarily designed "optimize" performance based on modifications previously made to the bike, which you specify when ordering. I believe the only claimed performance improvement is throttle response as a result of a slightly larger hole being drilled in the slide(?).

The friend making the recommendation said he couldn't get his bike running just right so he tried the kit and it worked perfectly. Again, I don't know shit about carbs so just hoping to get to a solution with as few iterations as possible.

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Well, having fun is the main thing. Is the bike not running? What is the reason for the jet kit, or is it a complete set of parts and gaskets etc?

It looks like that kit is based around increasing performance - is that what you want to do, or do you just want to get the bike running right? If so I would tend towards getting the bike running properly with basically a stock set up, and then mess with performance later if it really needs it.
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:04 PM   #8321
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$5/per Well, they seen me coming!

Absolutely, we're all going to fall down together

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When I lived closer to Waldochs I used to let them handle the tire changes. I think it was $5/per mounted and balanced and the old tire recycled. Other than having the on trail skill I saw no reason to break a sweat

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Old 12-26-2012, 03:51 PM   #8322
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The friend making the recommendation said he couldn't get his bike running just right so he tried the kit and it worked perfectly. Again, I don't know shit about carbs so just hoping to get to a solution with as few iterations as possible.
Well, you're doing the right thing of course, a thorough clean and rebuild should cure that, I just think it's worth exercising caution before drilling slides and putting in aftermarket jet kits. There is no reason for stock jetting and set up to not work satisfactorily. I'm always dubious about going to aftermarket jet kits as a fix to normal operation problems such as this, but I don't know this brand you are looking at. Make sure you check all vacuum lines and carb mounting rubbers for cracks and leaks too while you're working on it, and also trapped control cables.

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$5/per Well, they seen me coming!
It is darn difficult to get that price these days, my experience is more $30 to $40 per loose wheel. 5 bucks a wheel - wow that is damned good. Great price if you can get it.
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:36 PM   #8323
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Thanks, that makes me feel better! I paid $25/ so not completely out of line. They claim 18-20 minutes labor each and negotiating a lower price was a futile effort. Yep, I'll no doubt learn the hard way on the trail but I would have been at it for days and likely would have destroyed 4 tubes, 4 rims and 8 cases of beer while I was at it!

I assumed the jets would be the same size, but I'll be sure to check. Goal is stock everything. Just didn't know difficult/picky cleanliness would be and new jets were cheap and easy insurance.

Even ordered an old stock muffler from Ebay to replace the annoyingly loud Cobra on one of them

Thanks again for everyones tips today...I need em!
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:47 PM   #8324
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$25 is a pretty good price for a tyre change these days.

I think you will have that bike running like a champ, given what you are doing to it.
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:58 PM   #8325
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Yeah, that was the good buddy price. I used to spend 12 hours a day goofing off at a printing press with the counter guy.

Now I do all my own mounting and balancing

He moved on from Waldochs and I moved about 20 miles away. I miss having that connection.

On the plus side the pile of tires behind my shed is almost visable from space
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