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Ladder106 · 03-01-2005, 11:57 PM

Looks like the TA will be needed a clutch soon. Does anyone make a clutch kit fot his bike??

Ray(stuff keeps wearing out)Stedronsky
Davis, CA

Jeff@TheQuadShop · 03-02-2005, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighwayChile

Damn! getting a wilburs! ( pardon while I wipe up the drool) do you know what length you will need to match the front fork length?

speakin of portugal, I'm drinkin' a glass of Warres Optima right now, fun country, I will pass on the dried fish next time I'm there though.

From my measurements so far, it will need to be about 25mm longer. I'm having a spacer made for the rear shock today so I can play around with it before I order up the Wilbur. This spacer will be extending the length of the shock not adding tension to the spring.

Ladder106 · 03-02-2005, 07:21 AM

Right....

Our problems were different. At present, I just wanted to find an inexpensive way to get the ride height back where it should be.

I understand you (Jeff) have to compensate for the major boost in height and travel you got on the front end.

Would shortening the "wishbone" link between the rock assembly and frame accomplish the same thing as making the shock longer? Seem like it. That would also increase the rate that the suspension "ramps up" the spring rate though....at least if I've thought this through correctly.

Looking forward to seeing you extension piece

Ray Stedronsky
Davis, CA

Jeff@TheQuadShop · 03-02-2005, 07:27 AM

It probally would but it would also throw off the rising rate geometery and make it handle funny. The simple piece I'm having made extends the distance between the shock shaft and clevis just like haveing a longer shock made. This way the geometry stays the same as stock.

Jeff@TheQuadShop · 03-02-2005, 09:55 AM

SCORE!!!!!!

The first set of footpegs I ordered worked like a charm! All I had to do was drill out the mounting hole in the TA mount to accept a bigger pin (which I found at a hardware store ) of the footpeg and grind a little off the footpeg seat and it bolted right up.
These are the IMS Pro-4 pegs and are top of the line. Much wider than stock and have nice sharp cleets. These retail for $95 but I bought them on clearance sale for $50. I have 3 pairs left if anyone wants a set. I sell them to you for what I have in them plus shipping.

Here you can see the section where I had to grind away a slight amount of material so that the peg would sit flat. I did this with my dremel. I drilled out the hole with a 13/32 bit.

The pins that I bought where a little long so I used an alum spacer to take up the gap. I could have looked harder to find a shorter pin but I was in a hurry.
All mounted up and added a little chrome bling too!

modrover · 03-02-2005, 11:10 AM

Jeff,

I really like those pegs, but it'd be nice to find something that is a total bolt-up. Going back to stock pegs (not that you'd want to) would require a little work now. Again, I really like the pegs... I'm still going to check into some others. There's got to be a set (made for another bike) that uses the same bolt holes and bracket angles right?

Jeff@TheQuadShop · 03-02-2005, 11:21 AM

Probally not, seems you can only get aftermarket pegs for true offroad bikes and they will most likely all have the stronger pins. The stock TA pins are tiny and would break under hard offroad abuse.
The grinding I did was very little.

CraigTransalp · 03-02-2005, 01:42 PM

Jeff,
Where specifically is the 25mm spacer inserted in the assembly?
Thanks,
Craig

Jeff@TheQuadShop · 03-02-2005, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigTransalp

Jeff,
Where specifically is the 25mm spacer inserted in the assembly?
Thanks,
Craig

I'll have a report with pics as soon as the part gets here.

Jeff@TheQuadShop · 03-02-2005, 04:59 PM

Ok, now starts the beginning of the Africa Twin conversion. First is this Africa Twin RD04 swingarm that I won on Ebay for $7 plus $35 freight.

You can see in this pic that the AT swingarm is quite a bit longer and made of aluminum instead of stamped steel.

All the mounts are exactly the same, the only difference is that the AT swingarm is longer and it has a tab for a disc brake instead of a drum brake.

No worries, the dremel comes to the rescue again. With a little grinding work, the drum brake slides right in to the disc brake bracket tab. This is only temporary till I can find an Africa Twin or Transalp rear wheel with disc.

The TA axle is a little long so I used 2 oversize nuts to take up the slack till I can find an AT axle.

All that I need to do to make the brake arm reach is index the drum lever foreward 2 splines and it will just fit. I will hook the return spring to one of the screws for the brake cable holder on top of the swingarm.

Linkage will bolt up but you need the bolt that attaches the linkage to the swingarm from the AT as it is a special bolt.
Oh ya, and don't for get to order a longer chain! I bought a DID 525V o-ring with 140 links and cut it down to the right length.

HighwayChile · 03-02-2005, 09:25 PM

jeff your a wizard, damn fine score on the AT swingarm, the TA is a light duty thing. cool pegs too, I have found some bikes going with bigger pegs, the added space was on the forward part of the peg, ( this wason a KLR650) made it real hard to shift. the TA I had a problem with my right heel hittin the exaust, same problem with my DL650. great job, put this instruction on a CD & sell it

HighwayChile · 03-02-2005, 09:27 PM

Try barnett or honda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladder106

Looks like the TA will be needed a clutch soon. Does anyone make a clutch kit fot his bike??

Ray(stuff keeps wearing out)Stedronsky
Davis, CA

modrover · 03-02-2005, 11:56 PM

Jeff... well done. Nice to see the @T stuff going on. I was told the early @T would fit right up (this must be what you've got), but the later would require a lot more work to fit.

Can't wait for the tank and cowls... an Africa Twin is such a beautiful thing. One of the best looking bikes ever made.

Jeff@TheQuadShop · 03-03-2005, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighwayChile

jeff your a wizard, damn fine score on the AT swingarm, the TA is a light duty thing. cool pegs too, I have found some bikes going with bigger pegs, the added space was on the forward part of the peg, ( this wason a KLR650) made it real hard to shift. the TA I had a problem with my right heel hittin the exaust, same problem with my DL650. great job, put this instruction on a CD & sell it

Thanks for the kind words. The footpegs are actually centered in this case, they go foreward and back equil amounts from the stock pegs.

Jeff@TheQuadShop · 03-03-2005, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modrover

Jeff... well done. Nice to see the @T stuff going on. I was told the early @T would fit right up (this must be what you've got), but the later would require a lot more work to fit.

Can't wait for the tank and cowls... an Africa Twin is such a beautiful thing. One of the best looking bikes ever made.

Ya you and me both. There was a tank I was trying to win on Ebay that matched the fairings I had already bought perfectly. I went to bid in the last 30 seconds and my @%&*@!%^# computer locked up when I hit confirm bid. I was so pissed!!!! I did win another but it will need to be painted but luckly my best friend runs a body shop.

03-01-2005, 11:57 PM	#841
Ladder106 It's a short cut, really Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Davis, CA Oddometer: 4,268	TA clutch kit Looks like the TA will be needed a clutch soon. Does anyone make a clutch kit fot his bike?? Ray(stuff keeps wearing out)Stedronsky Davis, CA

03-02-2005, 07:21 AM	#843
Ladder106 It's a short cut, really Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Davis, CA Oddometer: 4,268	TA suspention mods Right.... Our problems were different. At present, I just wanted to find an inexpensive way to get the ride height back where it should be. I understand you (Jeff) have to compensate for the major boost in height and travel you got on the front end. Would shortening the "wishbone" link between the rock assembly and frame accomplish the same thing as making the shock longer? Seem like it. That would also increase the rate that the suspension "ramps up" the spring rate though....at least if I've thought this through correctly. Looking forward to seeing you extension piece Ray Stedronsky Davis, CA

03-02-2005, 07:27 AM	#844
Jeff@TheQuadShop TAT survivor Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Crestwood, Kentucky Oddometer: 4,441	It probally would but it would also throw off the rising rate geometery and make it handle funny. The simple piece I'm having made extends the distance between the shock shaft and clevis just like haveing a longer shock made. This way the geometry stays the same as stock. __________________ 1998 RMX 250 singletrack bike 96 XR600 adventure bike KY state Vet A offroad champion TAT and TWVT survivor

03-02-2005, 09:55 AM	#845
Jeff@TheQuadShop TAT survivor Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Crestwood, Kentucky Oddometer: 4,441	SCORE!!!!!! The first set of footpegs I ordered worked like a charm! All I had to do was drill out the mounting hole in the TA mount to accept a bigger pin (which I found at a hardware store ) of the footpeg and grind a little off the footpeg seat and it bolted right up. These are the IMS Pro-4 pegs and are top of the line. Much wider than stock and have nice sharp cleets. These retail for $95 but I bought them on clearance sale for $50. I have 3 pairs left if anyone wants a set. I sell them to you for what I have in them plus shipping. Here you can see the section where I had to grind away a slight amount of material so that the peg would sit flat. I did this with my dremel. I drilled out the hole with a 13/32 bit. The pins that I bought where a little long so I used an alum spacer to take up the gap. I could have looked harder to find a shorter pin but I was in a hurry. All mounted up and added a little chrome bling too! __________________ 1998 RMX 250 singletrack bike 96 XR600 adventure bike KY state Vet A offroad champion TAT and TWVT survivor

03-02-2005, 11:10 AM	#846
modrover ^OP BOOMSHANKA! Joined: Oct 2003 Location: WA, USA Oddometer: 3,570	Jeff, I really like those pegs, but it'd be nice to find something that is a total bolt-up. Going back to stock pegs (not that you'd want to) would require a little work now. Again, I really like the pegs... I'm still going to check into some others. There's got to be a set (made for another bike) that uses the same bolt holes and bracket angles right? __________________ ~Michael (of The Land of Misfit Land Rovers) Used to have an Africa Twin and Transalp X-Files Gov't Issue Sprinter TurboDiesel Washougal, WA USA

03-02-2005, 11:21 AM	#847
Jeff@TheQuadShop TAT survivor Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Crestwood, Kentucky Oddometer: 4,441	Probally not, seems you can only get aftermarket pegs for true offroad bikes and they will most likely all have the stronger pins. The stock TA pins are tiny and would break under hard offroad abuse. The grinding I did was very little. __________________ 1998 RMX 250 singletrack bike 96 XR600 adventure bike KY state Vet A offroad champion TAT and TWVT survivor

03-02-2005, 01:42 PM	#848
CraigTransalp Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2004 Oddometer: 137	More specific.. Jeff, Where specifically is the 25mm spacer inserted in the assembly? Thanks, Craig __________________ Craig '90 Honda Transalp Red '93 Honda XR650L

03-02-2005, 04:59 PM	#850
Jeff@TheQuadShop TAT survivor Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Crestwood, Kentucky Oddometer: 4,441	Ok, now starts the beginning of the Africa Twin conversion. First is this Africa Twin RD04 swingarm that I won on Ebay for $7 plus $35 freight. You can see in this pic that the AT swingarm is quite a bit longer and made of aluminum instead of stamped steel. All the mounts are exactly the same, the only difference is that the AT swingarm is longer and it has a tab for a disc brake instead of a drum brake. No worries, the dremel comes to the rescue again. With a little grinding work, the drum brake slides right in to the disc brake bracket tab. This is only temporary till I can find an Africa Twin or Transalp rear wheel with disc. The TA axle is a little long so I used 2 oversize nuts to take up the slack till I can find an AT axle. All that I need to do to make the brake arm reach is index the drum lever foreward 2 splines and it will just fit. I will hook the return spring to one of the screws for the brake cable holder on top of the swingarm. Linkage will bolt up but you need the bolt that attaches the linkage to the swingarm from the AT as it is a special bolt. Oh ya, and don't for get to order a longer chain! I bought a DID 525V o-ring with 140 links and cut it down to the right length. __________________ 1998 RMX 250 singletrack bike 96 XR600 adventure bike KY state Vet A offroad champion TAT and TWVT survivor Jeff@TheQuadShop screwed with this post 03-02-2005 at 05:25 PM

03-02-2005, 09:25 PM	#851
HighwayChile greetings from Wa state Joined: Aug 2003 Location: Bow, WA USA Oddometer: 4,096	jeff your a wizard, damn fine score on the AT swingarm, the TA is a light duty thing. cool pegs too, I have found some bikes going with bigger pegs, the added space was on the forward part of the peg, ( this wason a KLR650) made it real hard to shift. the TA I had a problem with my right heel hittin the exaust, same problem with my DL650. great job, put this instruction on a CD & sell it __________________ “I would rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on earth.” .....Steve McQueen

03-02-2005, 11:56 PM	#853
modrover ^OP BOOMSHANKA! Joined: Oct 2003 Location: WA, USA Oddometer: 3,570	Jeff... well done. Nice to see the @T stuff going on. I was told the early @T would fit right up (this must be what you've got), but the later would require a lot more work to fit. Can't wait for the tank and cowls... an Africa Twin is such a beautiful thing. One of the best looking bikes ever made. __________________ ~Michael (of The Land of Misfit Land Rovers) Used to have an Africa Twin and Transalp X-Files Gov't Issue Sprinter TurboDiesel Washougal, WA USA

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