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Old 06-23-2011, 07:03 PM   #11611
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M.A.P. Engineering (Jim Rowley) looks to be still selling the adapter.

http://www.map-engineering.com/prodd...a9031104ac0c79

I think he may have actually developed it first and he is an inmate here.

Should be relatively inexpensive to ship the lightweight aluminum piece to the UK and find a used Hawk rotor in the UK. I'm sure Jim can provide exact details of what to look for.

The disc upgrade and SS braided lines made a noticeable difference on my TA.
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:51 AM   #11612
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ok, forgive my ignorance, but what is the "hawk rotor"? do i need to buy a new caliper? where do i get a "hawk rotor"? and where can i get the right braided lines?

ok.. i have just realised that a hawk is called an NTV "Revere" in the UK, so... can someone tell me what size rotor I need? And from what year Hawk? (they had different rotors, depending on the model year)

thanks all

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Old 06-24-2011, 01:30 AM   #11613
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Depends which model year you have... If something starting from 1991, when front brake was upgraded and caliper bracket bolt holes are 117mm apart, simpler would be to user SLR650 caliper and any 296mm honda rotor... Look back for my posts here about this.

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hi, i have a single-disc 600 transalp and would like to make the front brake better

can anyone recommend a decent disc/pads?

what about these??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=200555891385

also... can anyone recommend a braided hose kit? where could i get one

(i am in the UK)

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Old 06-24-2011, 03:07 AM   #11614
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its a XL600 VK model
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Old 06-24-2011, 08:13 AM   #11615
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its a XL600 VK model

year?
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Old 06-24-2011, 04:14 PM   #11616
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Yes,they worked fine and they were sold to me for $120 US each,no idea what the price would be up here.The dealer looked it up as a US model '89

So the ones I'm looking at on Ebay should work for me.

And ordered.

Thank you very much for this info,
you guys are the best,
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Old 06-25-2011, 06:14 AM   #11617
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sorry, its an XL600 VK. 1990 model. in red/white

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Old 06-25-2011, 06:25 AM   #11618
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Wow one of the really OLD ones!


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Old 06-25-2011, 12:55 PM   #11619
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ok, forgive my ignorance, but what is the "hawk rotor"? do i need to buy a new caliper? where do i get a "hawk rotor"? and where can i get the right braided lines?

ok.. i have just realised that a hawk is called an NTV "Revere" in the UK, so... can someone tell me what size rotor I need? And from what year Hawk? (they had different rotors, depending on the model year)

thanks all

The Hawk Rotor is just the front disk from a Honda Hawk. Unfortunately there is no identifying info stamped on mine and I got the whole thing as a package deal. I would just advise emailing or PM ing Jim Rowley at MAP engineering before ordering the caliper adapter and he can tell you exactly what part/year/size you need to look for. You don't need a new caliper, the adapter just moves the existing caliper outwards to accomodate the larger diameter disc from the Hawk (larger diameter means better stopping power apparently).

As for the braided lines, there are several manufactures and I don't know what is easier for you to access there, but all you really need is the right length with the correct fittings fittings on each end. The TA originally has rubber hose connecting to fixed steel tubing and back to rubber hose. You can replace the whole thing with a single braided line of the right total length (mine appears to be approx. 46 inches long incl. fittings). Just make sure to route it so nothing pinches and secure it appropriately with clips or zip ties. Any good bike shop that carries braided line should be able to help you out.

The adapter/rotor upgrade can be done independently from the brake line upgrade.
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Old 06-25-2011, 03:24 PM   #11620
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Not to over complicate this Honda did use the name Hawk on many bikes.........

The Hawk you what the rotor from is the NT650 and Europe it has a diffferent name.
That same rotor is use on several other bikes I believe the St1100 uses the same rotor and it "bolts right up"....best way to determine the cross reference on the NT650 rotor is check on an aftermarket brake site and you will see they use the same rotor part # on several bikes. The Honda part numbers does not show a croos reference interchange.
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:16 PM   #11621
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Tire advice

What works for your Transalps for gravel, asphalt and everything in between. I'm researching tires for my James Bay, Goose Bay trip this Sept.
I have a set of Avon Gripsters mounted now and they worked great for 5000 miles of 99% pavement.
I'm thinking of TKC 80s, another set of Gripsters or others that have been advised. Tourances, distanzias and I enen thought of mounting another set of D606s but the ride and noise would drive me up the wall.
I figure I'll ride 6500 miles with about 1500 miles of gravel and in Sept rain.
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:31 PM   #11622
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If jim Rowley doesn't have any of his rotors available, EBC, a British company, also makes a high quality, full-floating rotor for the Honda NT650 Hawk that should work with the adapter bracket Jim designed.
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Old 06-26-2011, 12:08 AM   #11623
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anyone interested in a TA

Gooday, have put my 650 TA up for sale in Australia. Here's a link to the ad.
http://www.bikesales.com.au/all-bikes/private/details.aspx?Cr=2&R=10450197&keywords=&trecs=16&__Ns=p_IsPoa_Int32|0||p_RankSort_Int32|1||p_HasPho tos_Int32|1||p_Make_String|0||p_Model_String|0||p_ YearMade_Int32|1||p_PriceSort_Decimal|1||p_PhotoCo unt_Int32|1&__sid=130A8D9518E0&__Nne=15&__Qpb=1&seot=1&__N=1432 604 1429 1626 1428 4294967259 4294958003&silo=1400
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Old 06-26-2011, 01:46 AM   #11624
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Thanks all. MAP engineering is getting me the adapter thing and also a used Hawk rotor. for $60 - A brand new Hawk rotor in the UK is $270.

I am looking forward to being able to stop the bike without giving myself a hernia pulling on the brake lever!
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:09 AM   #11625
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What works for your Transalps for gravel, asphalt and everything in between. I'm researching tires for my James Bay, Goose Bay trip this Sept.
I have a set of Avon Gripsters mounted now and they worked great for 5000 miles of 99% pavement.
I'm thinking of TKC 80s, another set of Gripsters or others that have been advised. Tourances, distanzias and I enen thought of mounting another set of D606s but the ride and noise would drive me up the wall.
I figure I'll ride 6500 miles with about 1500 miles of gravel and in Sept rain.
Dudley
I have Tourances on mine and like them on both pavement and gravel. They should be able to handle the mileage and the weather.
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