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Old 01-31-2011, 07:02 AM   #2266
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Looks right to me. Looks like an aftermarket upper triple clamp, too.

What about the axle? I don't see it with either of those listings. You'll need to track one of those down as well if it's not included.
pbreisch, The aftermarket upper is a bonus, although you will probably have to get new fatbar for it.

I have the YZ axle, you can have it if you plan on doing the YZ setup+supermoto break route.
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:12 AM   #2267
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awesome. He also has the whole brake assembly, caliper, cable, lever. Would there be any merit in getting it as a whole or should I just get the caliper?

And I will ask about the axle. totally forgot about it
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:14 AM   #2268
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I've read this thread more times then I care to admit and have gone back and forth on whither I want to do the mod. Settling on DO IT. Found these forks on fleabay
Yamaha 2002 YZ250F Forks Inverted Forks
Before I pull the trigger I just want a little reassurance that these are the right parts. Thanks.
I concur...looks right to me too.
If you go the BMW wheel route, Jason still has a few kits from the last run left.
If you have questions send me your email address via PM and I will send you the write-up from my first build...it answers a lot of question in the same place.


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Old 01-31-2011, 11:38 AM   #2269
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This is the spreadsheet I created when I was scratching my head for the new shock. Mark and I both used Hyperpro. But any shock you can get customized well do.


EDIT: the seat height increase is highly inaccurate. Because the seat height does not increase linearly with the shock length.
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Nice job BMac - wish this was available during our head scratching days!
You may want to add the standard GS data (for the underprivilaged few)
GS Shock 315 long 47.5 mm stroke, 165 mm travel, ratio 3.47
Is what I am basing my rear shock info on. I am converting a GS, but from what I have read the end measurements should all be the same(?)... i.e. the upgraded rear suspension will have the same measurements no matter what model it is going on.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:43 AM   #2270
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Also

Is what I am basing my rear shock info on. I am converting a GS, but from what I have read the end measurements should all be the same(?)... i.e. the upgraded rear suspension will have the same measurements no matter what model it is going on.

You would be correct so long as you didnt lower the new forks.

I am having a hyperpro made. What are you having done?
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:12 PM   #2271
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I am not going to lower the forks. Looks like hyper pro for me.

I found another posters specs and luckily I am almost the same weight.

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Qty Item Description Price Ea... Amount
spec Motorbike: F650 Dakar 2003
Rider Weight: 180 lbs.
0.00 0.00
1 460 Hyperpro 460 Emulsion Rear Shock 589.00 589.00T
997 Special Discount -15.00% -88.35
1 Hyperpro HPA Hydraulic Pre Load Adjuster 269.00 269.00T
997 Special Discount -15.00% -40.35
Shipping & Handling Domestic 25.00 25.00T
The shock will be built to stock length = 326 mm
The shock will have a stroke of 72 mm
The shock will have a progressive spring # 1220
The shock will have the hydraulic pre-load
The hydraulic pre-load can be used for additional 7 mm of
pre-load on the spring.
Please confirm order and call with credit card number.
$754.30
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:18 PM   #2272
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I am not going to lower the forks. Looks like hyper pro for me.

I found another posters specs and luckily I am almost the same weight.

That shock is an Emulsion. It has not compression damp adjust or rez. You have to ask for that extra. It comes out to 1290 total. I just talked to Klaus the other day.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:24 PM   #2273
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That shock is an Emulsion. It has not compression damp adjust or rez. You have to ask for that extra. It comes out to 1290 total. I just talked to Klaus the other day.
Make sure you ask for the remote reservoir. Since it is no longer a standard option for the HyperPro shocks on Dakar/GS. Klaus should know exactly what to put together by now. (hose length, angle, etc.)

You probably should not get the shock with the specs you 'pasted'.
A good length would be 336mm (72mm of stroke)

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Old 01-31-2011, 01:31 PM   #2274
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sheite. I just sent out the suspension info request. lol. Sounds like Klaus will know what is up though.

$1200

Gonna have to find a way to slip that by the wife.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:36 PM   #2275
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sheite. I just sent out the suspension info request. lol. Sounds like Klaus will know what is up though.

$1200

Gonna have to find a way to slip that by the wife.
Your rear shock with the additional oil in the remote reservoir is progressive in nature. There is no reason to put progressive spring on it, especially if it cost you more money.

You better contact Klaus to double check your specs. The guy is not the best in terms of keeping track of orders and getting you exactly what you want. A few will echo this opinion here
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:20 PM   #2276
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That shock is an Emulsion. It has not compression damp adjust or rez. You have to ask for that extra. It comes out to 1290 total. I just talked to Klaus the other day.
Do you have the specs of your shock that you can post?
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:35 PM   #2277
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Do you have the specs of your shock that you can post?

Its the one that says Marks Hyper pro on the chart you quoted.
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:44 PM   #2278
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Your rear shock with the additional oil in the remote reservoir is progressive in nature. There is no reason to put progressive spring on it, especially if it cost you more money.

You better contact Klaus to double check your specs. The guy is not the best in terms of keeping track of orders and getting you exactly what you want. A few will echo this opinion here
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Progressive, schmogressive. A metal spring, air and oil are all progressive as it is. The more you load them, the stiffer they get. Rick Johnson at TooTech, who is a suspension god according to many Supercross guys, pans any merits of progressive springs. In Cali, he's the man, so I'll take his word for it.
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:24 AM   #2279
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removing abs - brake line help

I'm going to need a new brake line for the rear as I'm removing the abs. Question is: Do I just purchase a std. rear brake line for a non ABS dakar or is the fitting on the master cylinder different. I called spiegler and they say it is custom ... need lengths and fittings. I figured a stock non abs line should work, Am I right?

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Old 02-16-2011, 04:46 AM   #2280
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That should work. I would get a used one of ebay though. I've heard that you can use the one you remove off the front, but I didn't try that. I just measured out the line and made one myself.
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