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Old 02-28-2011, 10:52 AM   #15151
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I don't think all guns come from Interarms. There are many variables.
Do you know from an authoritative source that some guns can be matched to spent shell cases solely from marks left by the breech face?
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:51 AM   #15152
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Do you know from an authoritative source that some guns can be matched to spent shell cases solely from marks left by the breech face?
So you are saying that a piece/mark many times smaller (the firing pin strike) is the holy grail of comparators? I don't think so.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:54 AM   #15153
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I have a Nagant revolver and it is very intresting. The double action pull is best done with a pair of vice grips.
The design is awesome, but they neglected to make the frame bigger so to have more leverage.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:59 AM   #15154
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So you are saying that a piece/mark many times smaller (the firing pin strike) is the holy grail of comparators? I don't think so.
I said nothing of the kind. To repeat my question, can you cite any authoritative source which states that a spent casing can be matched to a gun even when the firing pin, extractor, and barrel have been replaced?

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Old 02-28-2011, 12:03 PM   #15155
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I said nothing of the kind. To repeat my question, can you cite any authoritative source which states that a spent casing can be matched to a gun even when the firing pin, extractor, and barrel have been replaced?

What you are saying/said is that the firing pin mark trumps the marks left by the breech face upon the brass and primer. Since the mark left by the pin is tiny by comparison, I'm calling you silly.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:06 PM   #15156
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Or swap barrels and extractors.
It's ridiculously easy to swap barrels.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:11 PM   #15157
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will be a ccw, is it depenable , durable, you know, a decent firearm for the money.
With a good holster, you can conceal a full-sized 1911 and it'll actually be useful. My firearm instructors don't consider a .380 a "personal defense caliber".

They showed me a black office binder clip that they use to attach targets to the cardboard backing. It stopped a .380 round.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:13 PM   #15158
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What you are saying/said is that the firing pin mark trumps the marks left by the breech face upon the brass and primer. Since the mark left by the pin is tiny by comparison, I'm calling you silly.
No, that's not what I said. Read my posts again. And since you've twice dodged my question, its only fair to conclude that no authoritative source backs up your assertion that identifying marks left by the breech face alone can match a spent case to the gun it came from.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:27 PM   #15159
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No, that's not what I said. Read my posts again. And since you've twice dodged my question, its only fair to conclude that no authoritative source backs up your assertion that identifying marks left by the breech face alone can match a spent case to the gun it came from.
I see that you're a lover of single edged of logic.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:32 PM   #15160
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Cz 82

Picked up a another CZ 82 recently. Damn, the trigger slap on this one hurts!
My finger was numb after one magazine.

The other one I've had for several years has a bit of slap but it's not really a bother.

What's up with this one? Change out the recoil spring?
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:33 PM   #15161
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I see that you're a lover of single edged of logic.
Do let us know when you can come up with something that at least resembles an answer to my question.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:33 PM   #15162
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:41 PM   #15163
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Do let us know when you can come up with something that at least resembles an answer to my question.
I understand that holding your breath until your cherubic cheeks turned blue may have worked for you once upon a time but were I you, I'd not hold my breath.
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:34 PM   #15164
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I've always looked at 70-75% of street/retail (not MSRP) is a good starting point for used firearm in very good condition.
Let me know when you're selling.

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yeah ... 50 percent is killer .... 70 percent is decent .... 80 percent is a 1911!
I'd love to be finding stuff used in very good condition for 70-75% of street prices.
It seems most around here ask 100% of best internet price for used guns.
They figure no tax, no shipping cost, no FFl transfer fees make up for it. They may be on to something though. I've emailed thee different people about 10/22's within hours of them being listed at what I consider a fair price simply stating "I'll take it, where/when can we meet?" To be answered it is already sold. I know one of them was back up for sale within three days for $125 more.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:08 PM   #15165
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I'd love to be finding stuff used in very good condition for 70-75% of street prices.
It seems most around here ask 100% of best internet price for used guns.
They figure no tax, no shipping cost, no FFl transfer fees make up for it. They may be on to something though. I've emailed thee different people about 10/22's within hours of them being listed at what I consider a fair price simply stating "I'll take it, where/when can we meet?" To be answered it is already sold. I know one of them was back up for sale within three days for $125 more.
That's definitely true around here, especially for popular/desirable guns. I think that lots of buyers are willing to pay a premium to not have the transaction "on the books" and to not have a gun "registered" in their name. That doesn't mean that they are criminals, most definitely are not, but a lot of gun people don't like the idea that their gun(s) can be tracked.
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