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Old 02-19-2009, 07:47 PM   #1561
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Make sure you put that red dot on the center of someones neck to be able to put them down with a .32.....if you ever have to. And don't eve try to shoot thru a thick leather jacket and put a guy down especially if he is on drugs.

Pretty sure my pellet gun will go through a thick leather jacket...
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:52 PM   #1562
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Recently bought this Ruger Mk III target model as well and really enjoy shooting it.



Think I paid $230 out the door for it new. Put a set of grips and an ultra dot on it. It is becoming one of my favorite guns.
Nice gun! Which grips? How much is the Ultra Dot?

Oh yeah, how many rounds per mag? That or the Walther P22 is my next handgun.
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Old 02-20-2009, 07:54 AM   #1563
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This is my baby you cant beat a cool old revolver
1976 Smith & Wesson "Highway Patrolman" 6 inch
model 28-2..
N frame .357’s sure hang/shoot good. So do the L’s and what all. kerplinkity.
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Old 02-20-2009, 07:57 AM   #1564
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Pretty sure my pellet gun will go through a thick leather jacket...
That isn't the point, what it does after penetrating a thick leather biker jacket is what I would be worried about, or shall I say, what it wont do.
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Old 02-20-2009, 08:07 AM   #1565
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That isn't the point, what it does after penetrating a thick leather biker jacket is what I would be worried about, or shall I say, what it wont do.
I've never pimped the .32 but it seems if some cowgirl is all leathered up, penetration might not be the issue.
.32 ACP Winchester 60gr Silvertip JHP (Beretta 3032)
.32 ACP Winchester 60gr Silvertip JHP
Product Number: X32ASHP, Lot Number: 54PC90
Test Date: See Remarks
Test Weapon: Beretta 3032 Tomcat, 2.4" bbl
Bare Gelatin Denim Covered Gelatin
Gelatin Calibration: 8.0cm @ 610 fpsGelatin Calibration: 9.9cm @ 609 fps
Shot #Velocity
Feet/Sec
Penetration
Inches
ExpansionShot #Velocity
Feet/Sec
Penetration
Inches
Expansion
18225.9.48182315.3.32
27819.9.32279614.5.32
38018.7.35375013.6.32
48185.5.48477814.6.32
58435.4.50577114.3.32
Avg.8137.1.43Avg.78414.5.32
CorrectedN/A Corrected14.1
Remarks:
  • Test date: 9/99.
  • Gelatin calibration corrected to 7.7cm in accordance with: "Figure 5-2, Velocity Variation Correction to Measured BB Penetration Depth." Bullet Penetration, MacPherson, Duncan, Ballistic Publications, El Segundo, CA, 1994, p. 84.
  • Bullet #5 shed jacket at end of wound track.
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  • Test date: 10/99.
  • Gelatin calibration corrected to 9.5cm in accordance with: "Figure 5-2, Velocity Variation Correction to Measured BB Penetration Depth." Bullet Penetration, MacPherson, Duncan, Ballistic Publications, El Segundo, CA, 1994, p. 84.
  • Five shot average penetration depth corrected to 14.1 inches in accordance with: MacPherson, Duncan: "A Simplified Penetration Depth Correction for Data Taken in Non-standard Gelatin." Wound Ballistics Review 2(2); pp. 41-45, 1995.


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Old 02-20-2009, 08:10 AM   #1566
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This is my baby you cant beat a cool old revolver
1976 Smith & Wesson "Highway Patrolman" 6 inch
model 28-2


That looks to be in fine condition.

Appears you have a pair of undersized grips, same grips fitted to the snub sized N-frames. Ever use the full sized grips?
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Old 02-20-2009, 08:13 AM   #1567
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That looks to be in fine condition.

Appears you have a pair of undersized grips, same grips fitted to the snub sized N-frames. Ever use the full sized grips?
Those are stock grips. You can buy a set of Pacmyeres or even a Houge that is more full size, but that model had the small grip frame.
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Old 02-20-2009, 08:19 AM   #1568
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Those are stock grips. You can buy a set of Pacmyeres or even a Houge that is more full size, but that model had the small grip frame.
Yes, am familiar with Hogues and Pacmyers, but the grips pictured are a little shorter than the standard sized grips that are usually fitted. Those are the same shorter grips S&W fitted to the snub length N-frames.

The standard length grips extend another 3/8" or so below the checkering.

Like so:

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Old 02-20-2009, 08:33 AM   #1569
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That looks to be in fine condition.

Appears you have a pair of undersized grips, same grips fitted to the snub sized N-frames. Ever use the full sized grips?
Im quite sure these are the orignals. There are quite a few grips they came with I have never used anything else on this gun but I wouldnt be adverse to trying somthing different. Mostly this gun is used with 38 special ammo for range shooting so it doesnt kick like the Magnum ammo does
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Old 02-20-2009, 08:34 AM   #1570
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I've never pimped the .32 but it seems if some cowgirl is all leathered up, penetration might not be the issue.


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.32 ACP Winchester 60gr Silvertip JHP (Beretta 3032)
.32 ACP Winchester 60gr Silvertip JHP
Product Number: X32ASHP, Lot Number: 54PC90
Test Date: See Remarks
Test Weapon: Beretta 3032 Tomcat, 2.4" bbl
Bare Gelatin Denim Covered Gelatin
Gelatin Calibration: 8.0cm @ 610 fpsGelatin Calibration: 9.9cm @ 609 fps
Shot #Velocity
Feet/Sec
Penetration
Inches
ExpansionShot #Velocity
Feet/Sec
Penetration
Inches
Expansion
18225.9.48182315.3.32
27819.9.32279614.5.32
38018.7.35375013.6.32
48185.5.48477814.6.32
58435.4.50577114.3.32
Avg.8137.1.43Avg.78414.5.32
CorrectedN/A Corrected14.1
Remarks:
  • Test date: 9/99.
  • Gelatin calibration corrected to 7.7cm in accordance with: "Figure 5-2, Velocity Variation Correction to Measured BB Penetration Depth." Bullet Penetration, MacPherson, Duncan, Ballistic Publications, El Segundo, CA, 1994, p. 84.
  • Bullet #5 shed jacket at end of wound track.
Remarks:
  • Test date: 10/99.
  • Gelatin calibration corrected to 9.5cm in accordance with: "Figure 5-2, Velocity Variation Correction to Measured BB Penetration Depth." Bullet Penetration, MacPherson, Duncan, Ballistic Publications, El Segundo, CA, 1994, p. 84.
  • Five shot average penetration depth corrected to 14.1 inches in accordance with: MacPherson, Duncan: "A Simplified Penetration Depth Correction for Data Taken in Non-standard Gelatin." Wound Ballistics Review 2(2); pp. 41-45, 1995.


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My point is this, a low mass, low power round against a thick leather jacket mushrooms prematurely when penetrating the jacket, then won't penetrate the soft tissue as well after that.
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Old 02-20-2009, 08:42 AM   #1571
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Yes, am familiar with Hogues and Pacmyers, but the grips pictured are a little shorter than the standard sized grips that are usually fitted. Those are the same shorter grips S&W fitted to the snub length N-frames.

The standard length grips extend another 3/8" or so below the checkering.

Like so:

Back then when they were new, you could find them both ways, one the one pictured by the poster and two like yours (as far as grips go). The one with the smaller grips was the one that most police departments bought for their street officers and detectives because it was a cheaper package having only a basic blue job, sand blasted top strap, and small frame grips. One could at that time buy the so called "Target stocks" from S&W for a whopping $5.90 extra which most if not all patrol officers did because of the easier draw, and better accuracy. BUT, most if not all detectives left on the standard small but grips because the weapon concieled better. So, in a sense we are both RIGHT......
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:28 PM   #1572
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My point is this, a low mass, low power round against a thick leather jacket mushrooms prematurely when penetrating the jacket, then won't penetrate the soft tissue as well after that.



still Gonna leave a mark...and hurt like holy fuckin hell.
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Old 02-20-2009, 07:57 PM   #1573
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My next purchase.

Les Baer 1911 Wadcutter Bullseye Pistol .45 ACP .... with frame mounted optical scope

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Old 02-20-2009, 09:43 PM   #1574
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My next purchase.

Les Baer 1911 Wadcutter Bullseye Pistol .45 ACP .... with frame mounted optical scope

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Old 02-20-2009, 10:17 PM   #1575
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my collection



the airsoft guns, me and my brothers are part of a airsift leage



echo-1 m79 granade launcher 350-400fps



army l85-a1 390 fps



the mean ome, cyma cm-036 480 fps



h&k m23 360 430 with supresser fps, kjw 1911 330 fps on gas 400 on CO2

"pro grade" airsoft guns, long guns are AEG's battery powerd full auto.
pistols are green gas (propane or r134) or CO2.

the real stuff



1861 colt navy i picked up at a pawn shop



CZ-52 traded the ex wifes wedding ring for it
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