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Old 10-01-2011, 08:04 AM   #20671
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Watching the auction on a Hoag custom longslide 1911 ticking down to under an hour is giving me indigestion.
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Old 10-01-2011, 08:12 AM   #20672
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It makes you wonder how hot those barrels got. How close to damage.
I bet most .22 barrels can take quite a bit of abuse.
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:06 AM   #20673
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Was at the range and practicing, brought a buddy and he had his berreta, asked if I wanted to try it. Sure I say. First shot was bullseye. Lucky as hell but got a tight group with it. I should have stopped after the bullseye though
Was it a Beretta 92 variant? Even though it seems popular to disparage the 92/M9 and pine for the days when the 1911 was the military service side-arm, I can say that it was a Beretta 92 which, in the 80s, led me into an enjoyment of semi-auto handguns and a couple of decades of IPSC and IDPA competition. Raised by a father who thought anything but a revolver was shit, I went along with that and my early experiences with 1911s (in the military and also shooting a 9mm Colt Commander which was about as accurate as throwing bricks at a really wide barn) only served to reinforce that bias. In the late 80s, however, bowing to the Wonder-Nine craze of that era, I bought a 92S and discovered that it was very accurate and pleasant to shoot. I used it in my first several IPSC matches and did better than I thought I would, graduated to 1911s, and have been shooting semi-autos ever since. I still love revolvers, though!
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Old 10-01-2011, 12:37 PM   #20674
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Was it a Beretta 92 variant? Even though it seems popular to disparage the 92/M9 and pine for the days when the 1911 was the military service side-arm, I can say that it was a Beretta 92 which, in the 80s, led me into an enjoyment of semi-auto handguns and a couple of decades of IPSC and IDPA competition. Raised by a father who thought anything but a revolver was shit, I went along with that and my early experiences with 1911s (in the military and also shooting a 9mm Colt Commander which was about as accurate as throwing bricks at a really wide barn) only served to reinforce that bias. In the late 80s, however, bowing to the Wonder-Nine craze of that era, I bought a 92S and discovered that it was very accurate and pleasant to shoot. I used it in my first several IPSC matches and did better than I thought I would, graduated to 1911s, and have been shooting semi-autos ever since. I still love revolvers, though!
I own 92's in standard size and compact, along with the 84. I also own 1911's.

I have never, ever, ever had a Beretta of that design fail to chamber or eject a round. On the other hand, the 1911's can and do fail. All the 1911's I own have done so, and that is even after having been throated, tuned, and stroked by gunsmiths said to be 1911 experts.

If I have to have a pistol that will work without question, it won't be a 1911.
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Old 10-01-2011, 04:12 PM   #20675
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I really liked the M9 Berettas we carried. Easy to use and maintain, pretty accurate (I qualified "expert" everytime I fired it annual qualification, which I never did with the old K-frame .38's), never had a single malfunction in training. Not really small enough for concealed carry under a flightsuit, though, and the frame was a bit large for my hand which required some shifting of my grip when hitting the slide release and dropping clips.
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:03 AM   #20676
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A story of the development of the M16A1 can be found here:

http://www.cybershooters.org/dgca/m16a1.htm

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Interesting article, George. Thanks for posting it.
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:54 AM   #20677
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What is it??

I realize that this might not be the right thread, or forum for that matter, to put this, but I figured that the gun thread would be where guys who know about critters/wildlife might hang out, so that's why I'm putting it here.

Yesterday I drove up the North Fork Road in NW Montana. Anyone who is familiar with that area is aware that it is pretty remote with lots of wildlife including coyotes and wolves. About 30 miles up the road, in an area where there's some private property (most of the land is Forest Service) a dog-like animal crossed the road in front of my truck, got on the other side of a wood fence, and stopped to look at me. I stopped too. I took a couple of pics before it bounded off. I managed to crop one down to show the critter reasonably clearly. It was medium-sized, bigger than most coyotes but not a huge animal. It doesn't look like a coyote to me, the ears are small and not as pointy, and although the picture doesn't show it, the tail isn't as big and bushy as most coyotes. I'm thinking wolf. If so, it'll be the first one I've ever seen in the wild. I suppose it could be a domestic dog too, but don't think so..... What say you?

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Old 10-02-2011, 12:05 PM   #20678
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Should have shot it just to be on the safe side.

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Old 10-02-2011, 12:15 PM   #20679
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Should have shot it just to be on the safe side.

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I think if I'd done that my girlfriend would have promptly popped a cap in my head! Besides, I just don't do gratuitous killing. If I'm not going to eat it, or it isn't trying to eat me, I don't shoot it, period. Eating is the key, either facilitating or preventing.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:27 PM   #20680
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Only wolves I've ever seen were captive, but I've seen 'em very up-close... like right at the end of a leash close... that looks pretty wolfy to me but it's hard to be certain.

Here in the east, coyotes and dogs have been interbreeding for a long time. I couldn't say for sure that what you saw isn't a coyote-dog mix, but those look like wolf eyes.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:38 PM   #20681
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I realize that this might not be the right thread, or forum for that matter, to put this, but I figured that the gun thread would be where guys who know about critters/wildlife might hang out, so that's why I'm putting it here.

Yesterday I drove up the North Fork Road in NW Montana. Anyone who is familiar with that area is aware that it is pretty remote with lots of wildlife including coyotes and wolves. About 30 miles up the road, in an area where there's some private property (most of the land is Forest Service) a dog-like animal crossed the road in front of my truck, got on the other side of a wood fence, and stopped to look at me. I stopped too. I took a couple of pics before it bounded off. I managed to crop one down to show the critter reasonably clearly. It was medium-sized, bigger than most coyotes but not a huge animal. It doesn't look like a coyote to me, the ears are small and not as pointy, and although the picture doesn't show it, the tail isn't as big and bushy as most coyotes. I'm thinking wolf. If so, it'll be the first one I've ever seen in the wild. I suppose it could be a domestic dog too, but don't think so..... What say you?

Definitely not a coyote.

Face and mane is right for a Timber. Probably an adolescent or very young adult.
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Old 10-02-2011, 01:06 PM   #20682
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yep, that's a wolf. Most likely of the "Lone" variety.
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Old 10-02-2011, 02:27 PM   #20683
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I think if I'd done that my girlfriend would have promptly popped a cap in my head! Besides, I just don't do gratuitous killing. If I'm not going to eat it, or it isn't trying to eat me, I don't shoot it, period. Eating is the key, either facilitating or preventing.
Good onya for your standards. I applaud your integrity. That is a beautiful animal.
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Old 10-02-2011, 03:38 PM   #20684
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+1 on letting wildlife be, if it isn't going to be used.
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Old 10-02-2011, 03:51 PM   #20685
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Was it a Beretta 92 variant?
no clue, it was black, big and shot 9mm ammo that is about the extent of my knowledge
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