The I LOVE THIS GUN Thread

[HighTechCoonass]

Originally Posted by HighTechCoonass

Whats a M1 Carbine Full Auto value? fully legal and registered....

[Danjal]

Originally Posted by HighTechCoonass

Whats a M1 Carbine Full Auto value? fully legal and registered....

Considering FA M1's werent existent to begin with.. id say pretty high. You're thinking of the M2 unless its a conversion. Last I saw earlier this year 5500-6000 was pretty average plus NFA dealer transfer fees.

[HighTechCoonass]

Thanks!! It must me a M2 just looked it up.... It a "30 carbine the looks like a M1" good info...

Originally Posted by Danjal

Considering FA M1's werent existent to begin with.. id say pretty high. You're thinking of the M2 unless its a conversion. Last I saw earlier this year 5500-6000 was pretty average plus NFA dealer transfer fees.

[Tellydoug]

Originally Posted by DireWolf

Come on now.... I have a Savage with a synth stock.

I have a couple too.....

[KSJEEPER]

Originally Posted by GoGo Gadget

If you simply want the tightest groups possible, then you simply work on the fundamentals. You have to analyze what is happening and what you need to do. Without seeing your groups, I can't help with that.

If you are training for more of a self defense/home defense usage, then there are plenty of drills you can do to increase your skill. The big thing is to draw and fire smoothly while applying the fundamentals of basic marksmanship. Many folks go to the range and go through several boxes of ammo without ever drawing. The most important shot is the first one that hits. So you have to build that muscle memory by drawing and firing. Don't load up a mag and shoot through the entire thing while on target. If your range allows drawing, then draw and fire one round and reholster. Do that for at least 20 rounds every time you shoot.

Then move to reloads. Load magazines with 2 rounds. Draw fire two, reload and fire those two. Again, working on muscle memory.

Get a target like this one, or something similar.



Number the circles, and get a die, as in dice not tap and die or loading die. Drop the die and whatever number comes up, draw and fire on that number circle. Remember, you only shoot as fast as you can hit.

Download this PDF and work on some of these drills to improve your shooting.
http://handgunlaw.us/documents/HandgunDrills.pdf

I like it...

Problem is, our indoor range is stand, point weapon down range, and fire at a slow rate of speed. No drawing, no speed reloads, etc. So while I feel like that is for sure an area where I could improve, no love at the range.

I like the idea of shooting various portions of the target, in random order. I typically shoot a nice tight group, but a single group. Get in a groove and thats it. Moving around the target seems like a nice idea. I'll give it a whirl, thanks!

[tslewisz]

Originally Posted by Tellydoug

No arguments at all, but the "feel" of those older wood stocked rifles are just.... different. Yes, I haven't seen any Savage model whatevers with the synthetic stock that wouldn't shoot sub MOA groups right out of the box with decent factory ammoes. You can go buy a Savage for under $300, literally take it out of the box, and it will shoot under an inch at 100 meters.

You can also get drunk on MD20/20, but that's not the same as sipping on some nice 18 year old McCallen.

The Macallan?


Carry on...

[Toadady]

Originally Posted by EvilGenius

Was it not threaded already for a flash hider/compensator?

nope

and yes it's post ban, in fact it's about a year old, former owner was putting some crap ammo through it and he said it was jambing, i ran 60 rounds through it as fast as i could pull the trigger, never failed,

i got the tan done, taped it up and got the brown sprayed tonight,

i have a .22 conversion ordered

[EvilGenius]

Decided that I was getting a little too hot headed with my $1000 budget gun ideas over the last few weeks.

Still looking for something fun and practical. Decided I'd look at shotguns since decent ones can be had for $250-$500. Plenty of competing sports for them and plenty useful as HD/SHTF firearms.


Basically decided a long time ago that a Rem 870 long/short barrel combo was the way to go.

But recently saw the 887 is not much more, comes with a few goodies and the idea of the super protective coating is pretty attractive.

Opinions?

[Jeffy]

Originally Posted by EvilGenius

Decided that I was getting a little too hot headed with my $1000 budget gun ideas over the last few weeks.

Still looking for something fun and practical. Decided I'd look at shotguns since decent ones can be had for $250-$500. Plenty of competing sports for them and plenty useful as HD/SHTF firearms.


Basically decided a long time ago that a Rem 870 long/short barrel combo was the way to go.

But recently saw the 887 is not much more, comes with a few goodies and the idea of the super protective coating is pretty attractive.

Opinions?

Well the 887 isn't replacing the 870. The 887 seems to be going up against the Benelli (Super) Nova. The biggest advantage of the 870 is all of the aftermarket parts. It's a tough shotgun with a long history. The 887 is supposed to be more weather resistant though. Not a fan of all the plastic. Haven't seen one in person though. I really like the 870 Wingmaster.

[EvilGenius]

Originally Posted by Jeffy

Well the 887 isn't replacing the 870. The 887 seems to be going up against the Benelli (Super) Nova. The biggest advantage of the 870 is all of the aftermarket parts. It's a tough shotgun with a long history. The 887 is supposed to be more weather resistant though. Not a fan of all the plastic. Haven't seen one in person though. I really like the 870 Wingmaster.

I prefer wood over plastic, but if the plastic is done well it doesn't bother me.

It's supposed to shoot much nicer than the 870, especially in the recoil department.

They have a tactical version for about $400 which looks like a mean bitch. The mall ninja in me wants that and then a 28" barrel so if I go hit up the range I can slap on the longer barrel and take the two shell extension off for a more sport friendly version.

But just the 28" game/comp version I think is only like $40 more with stuff like a good front sight and recoil pad which I assume I'd get at some point anyways.

But the 870 is beautiful in both the long barrel game/comp setup and the "police" setup as long as it has real wood furniture on it.

The snag for me is that for all the added zazz (which most reviewers seem to like) it's really not much more than the 870.

[Jeffy]

Originally Posted by EvilGenius

I prefer wood over plastic, but if the plastic is done well it doesn't bother me.

It's supposed to shoot much nicer than the 870, especiall yint he recoil department.

They have a tactical version for about $400 which looks like a mean bitch. The mall ninja in me wants that and then a 28" barrel so if I go hit up the range I can slap on the longer barrel and take the two shell extension off for a more sport friendly version.

But just the 28" game/comp version I think is only like $40 more with stuff like a good front sight and recoil pad which I assume I'd get at some point anyways.

But the 870 is beautiful in both the long barrel game/comp setup and the "police" setup.

The snag for me is that for all the added zazz (which most reviewers seem to like) it's really not much more than the 870.

Wingmaster or a Police Magnum with wood hardware, that's where my money would be. I've used an old Wingmaster and loved it. I the old '67 Mossberg 500 and a Benelli M2 21" Field as well. I've thought about picking up a Benelli Supernova but I do love steel & wood. I'll probably pick up a 870 Police or maybe an A5 and cut it down. I like ugly guns too.

[El Guero]

If you want a shotgun you can beat and abuse, I would go ahead and go for the 870 Express. Not as pretty as a Wingmaster by far, but better looking than the 887 and I'd dare say almost as durable (so long as you aren't planning on doing some stupid Glock torture test to it). I shot mine for 4 or 5 years of trap in high school. It was probably something like 200+ rounds a week during the season, and I'd assume I only cleaned it every couple years Never missed a beat. It's got a long barrel but I've never wanted a shorty, the long barrel was handy for reaching out and touching some turkeys. Choke change and you are back to clay shooting again.

[EvilGenius]

Originally Posted by El Guero

If you want a shotgun you can beat and abuse, I would go ahead and go for the 870 Express. Not as pretty as a Wingmaster by far, but better looking than the 887 and I'd dare say almost as durable (so long as you aren't planning on doing some stupid Glock torture test to it). I shot mine for 4 or 5 years of trap in high school. It was probably something like 200+ rounds a week during the season, and I'd assume I only cleaned it every couple years Never missed a beat. It's got a long barrel but I've never wanted a shorty, the long barrel was handy for reaching out and touching some turkeys. Choke change and you are back to clay shooting again.

Why is it so hard for you to get a handgun, yet you were allowed to do trap shooting in high school?

[ridered3000]

Originally Posted by EvilGenius

Basically decided a long time ago that a Rem 870 long/short barrel combo was the way to go.

But recently saw the 887 is not much more, comes with a few goodies and the idea of the super protective coating is pretty attractive.

Opinions?

I have an 870 Express I got in 89.It has been my bad weather deer gun since then and the metal is still in great shape.I make sure to clean it thoroughly after every rain/ice/snow storm. If you want the super protective coating I can understand that but you can get by without it with no worry

[El Guero]

Originally Posted by EvilGenius

Why is it so hard for you to get a handgun, yet you were allowed to do trap shooting in high school?

I'm confused