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Old 11-10-2011, 09:13 AM   #21691
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Hardcase, That is indeed a very nice 19. I am a fan of that particular size hand gun as it shoots both 38's and 357's rather comfortably as long as you have a set of pachmayr grips on it. The ring on the cylinder gives away the unfired aspect of it. If it were unfired there would be no drag ring from the cylinder lock spanning the circumference of the cylinder, especially in nickel finish.

Just as an FYI do not use Hoppes #9 solvent on it. It degrades nickel finishes. I learned that the hard way on an old model 70 government model I had.

I found that the 66 version is very capable of summer carry as long as it is tucked into the waistband just behind the kidney area even with the rubber grips. Let your shirt tail hang over it and it's like it is not even there. I carried one off duty like that in AZ for a long time. It is a bit heavy in a shoulder rig especially in a muzzle up elastic style holster. An airweight would do better there.
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:37 AM   #21692
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Made the mistake of picking up a Springfield Armory M1A NM yesterday. It felt absolutely normal after not holding one since I turned my match M14 to the armorers in 94 when we went to M-16s in competition. Now I'm wanting one bad all over again.
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:02 AM   #21693
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Yup. They had a 66 in scarce 3" configuration in the same shop about a month ago. It was in very nice shape, looked like new, no box or papers, and the asking price on that one was either $700 or 750, kinda steep. I see these nice shooters turning into safe-queens right and left.
These are too much fun to be safe queens. I've shown this 3" 65-5 here before, but we can never have too many pictures of S&W K frames...



Since you are looking for a new holster for your new 19 and many K frame holsters are designed to fit both 2.5 and 3", keep me apprised of your search as I am curious what you select and I am also looking for one more myself...
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:10 PM   #21694
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I want to use it for deer hunting. The 223 is too small, a 6mm would be perfect, especially in the heavier bullets. I've been using a 243 for a long time and I think it performs perfectly on deer without doing too much damage to the meat. I don't want to go to the AR-10 platform for this. If I did, I would make it a 260 Remington. I also like the idea of cheap and easy to form brass.
Why not 6.8spc?

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Old 11-10-2011, 12:32 PM   #21695
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The 6.8 would be a good one, but uses weird brass. Or I should say, proprietary brass. Not nearly as inexpensive as 223 brass. Especially since I get range brass for free in pretty much as large a quantity as I want to pick up. Other than that, it would be a better choice, really. Readily available uppers for reasonable money and factory ammoe. Decisions, decisions...
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:37 PM   #21696
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Hardcase, That is indeed a very nice 19. I am a fan of that particular size hand gun as it shoots both 38's and 357's rather comfortably as long as you have a set of pachmayr grips on it. The ring on the cylinder gives away the unfired aspect of it. If it were unfired there would be no drag ring from the cylinder lock spanning the circumference of the cylinder, especially in nickel finish.

Just as an FYI do not use Hoppes #9 solvent on it. It degrades nickel finishes. I learned that the hard way on an old model 70 government model I had.

I found that the 66 version is very capable of summer carry as long as it is tucked into the waistband just behind the kidney area even with the rubber grips. Let your shirt tail hang over it and it's like it is not even there. I carried one off duty like that in AZ for a long time. It is a bit heavy in a shoulder rig especially in a muzzle up elastic style holster. An airweight would do better there.
I agree that the 66 is probably a better choice for an everyday carry gun. I am really wishing I'd not sold the one I had, but plan to continue to keep my eyes peeled for a 2.5 or 3" 66 that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

And thanks for the tip on Hoppes #9, I do use that as a gun-cleaning solvent sometimes although tend to use either Break Free or Kroil for those purposes most of the time anymore. I just now realized that this is the first nickel gun I've ever owned.....

On the drag ring, S&W function tests guns that leave the assembly line, and also fires them. I don't think I've ever seen a Smith without at least a very faint ring on the cylinder, even brand new ones. But I am not necessarily believing this 19 is truly unfired, especially not in light of the scam with the box and that whole deal. To me it's a very nice 19, in "almost new" condition, and definitely a shooter.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:54 PM   #21697
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The 6.8 would be a good one, but uses weird brass. Or I should say, proprietary brass. Not nearly as inexpensive as 223 brass. Especially since I get range brass for free in pretty much as large a quantity as I want to pick up. Other than that, it would be a better choice, really. Readily available uppers for reasonable money and factory ammoe. Decisions, decisions...
I'm with The Commander on this one. 300 AAC Blackout.You can trim 223 brass and form the cases from that.

http://300aacblackout.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_AAC...2%C3%9735mm%29
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:15 PM   #21698
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These are too much fun to be safe queens. I've shown this 3" 65-5 here before, but we can never have too many pictures of S&W K frames...



Since you are looking for a new holster for your new 19 and many K frame holsters are designed to fit both 2.5 and 3", keep me apprised of your search as I am curious what you select and I am also looking for one more myself...
I bought a Black Hawk Inside the waist band for both a S&W 640 (snubbie) and a S&W 19-3 in 3" (both in .357) and they work well for the price.
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:33 PM   #21699
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The 6.8 would be a good one, but uses weird brass. Or I should say, proprietary brass. Not nearly as inexpensive as 223 brass. Especially since I get range brass for free in pretty much as large a quantity as I want to pick up. Other than that, it would be a better choice, really. Readily available uppers for reasonable money and factory ammoe. Decisions, decisions...

Although I am a "righty", I got a left handed Stag AR in 6.8 in case my right eye ever fails (BB gun injury); that's rational isn't it? Everyone needs a spare gun for their spare eye...




Shoots great, good knock down on whitetails, great ballistics with factory ammo.
Difficult to find "hunting" ammo so I guess I need to work on some hand loads.
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:33 PM   #21700
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:37 PM   #21701
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Just ordered my first AR today. Now comes "the wait".
What did you order?
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:53 PM   #21702
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A Rock River Arms midlength A4 with the stainless barrel and Wylde chamber. Also opted for the RRA gas block front flip sight. A2 furniture in OD green.

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Old 11-10-2011, 05:56 PM   #21703
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I'm with The Commander on this one. 300 AAC Blackout.You can trim 223 brass and form the cases from that.

http://300aacblackout.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_AAC...2%C3%9735mm%29
Hmmm, I hadn't considered that one. Looks promising.
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:39 PM   #21704
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Taurus Revolvers.

Does anyone have a Taurus revolver? What's the quality like in general from Taurus and their revolvers specifically? I've had my eye on the .44 Mag tracker with a 4" barrel as a pack gun. We've been having more and more encounters here in Colorado with black bears to the point that I'm getting concerned. Colorado now has enough black bears that if you get a Elk tag you can pay an additional $45 and will automatically receive a black bear tag.

I've seen these revolvers at several gun shows recently and I like the way they feel in my hand. Unfortunately I've not been able to dry fire them because the shows required the gun to be disabled by binding the barrel in such a manner as the action can't be activated.
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:28 PM   #21705
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Does anyone have a Taurus revolver? What's the quality like in general from Taurus and their revolvers specifically? I've had my eye on the .44 Mag tracker with a 4" barrel as a pack gun. We've been having more and more encounters here in Colorado with black bears to the point that I'm getting concerned. Colorado now has enough black bears that if you get a Elk tag you can pay an additional $45 and will automatically receive a black bear tag.

I've seen these revolvers at several gun shows recently and I like the way they feel in my hand. Unfortunately I've not been able to dry fire them because the shows required the gun to be disabled by binding the barrel in such a manner as the action can't be activated.
They had a bad rap for awhile, the only gun I've ever had to send back under warranty was a Taurus. I have heard they have gotten better, but I'm sure others here will chime in. Assuming quality has improved from 10 years ago, they seem like a pretty good deal to me.
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