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Old 06-12-2012, 09:18 AM   #25756
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Well, when the idea for the rig is to spray and pray at 15m I doubt that has any effect on it's "accuracy". I am willing to bet they have a cross point of about 50m out max, probably 25~30m out. All doubles have a cross point and depending on weapon, that might be close or at longer range.
If you liek the gun because it tickles your fancy that's one thing; I guess I still don't get the need. If spray and pray is the desired goal I would think there are other submachine guns with a higher rate of fire which would be better at the spray and pray operation. Or one could use that Russian automatic shotgun.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:36 AM   #25757
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If you liek the gun because it tickles your fancy that's one thing; I guess I still don't get the need. If spray and pray is the desired goal I would think there are other submachine guns with a higher rate of fire which would be better at the spray and pray operation. Or one could use that Russian automatic shotgun.
I don't like it nor would I buy one and I don't spray and pray. I was merely stating it was more useful than the other double barrel "tactical" thing recently posted here, a 1911 with two barrels side by side. And at least this thing is slightly useful for those who would have to hose their enemy down with rounds. And a Sub gun wouldn't hold a candle to this thing it being a rifle with .223 rounds against a single sub gun in 9mm......although like I said, it is basically worthless. Like a cell phone with only one button that dials 911 when you press it.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:43 AM   #25758
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Personally, I'd like to know exactly what experience made somebody sit down and think "Wow...y'know, what we really could have used was a double-barreled assault rifle..."
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:07 AM   #25759
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Needs 4 barrels and evenly distribute the auto-fire between the barrels.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:09 AM   #25760
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I don't like it nor would I buy one and I don't spray and pray. I was merely stating it was more useful than the other double barrel "tactical" thing recently posted here, a 1911 with two barrels side by side. And at least this thing is slightly useful for those who would have to hose their enemy down with rounds. And a Sub gun wouldn't hold a candle to this thing it being a rifle with .223 rounds against a single sub gun in 9mm......although like I said, it is basically worthless. Like a cell phone with only one button that dials 911 when you press it.
Got it.

When I mentioned submachine gun I was thinking the 5.7mm round which I read can defeat body armor when fired out of a rifle. The FN P90 has a 900RPM rate of fire which would give good spray and pray.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:22 AM   #25761
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Personally, I'd like to know exactly what experience made somebody sit down and think "Wow...y'know, what we really could have used was a double-barreled assault rifle..."
I think the word Marketing was it......so many companies are jumping on the overly tacticool deal since Ars started selling for three times what they are worth when the O show got elected.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:23 AM   #25762
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Needs 4 barrels and evenly distribute the auto-fire between the barrels.
Yep, time them to all be firing when the others are between shots. Sequentially.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:30 AM   #25763
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Look like one of the hair-brained ideas they'd try to build at Red Jacket....only the work looks better! Totally useless though. Nothing a big drum mag can't accomplish!
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:51 AM   #25764
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Look like one of the hair-brained ideas they'd try to build at Red Jacket....only the work looks better! Totally useless though. Nothing a big drum mag can't accomplish!
Red Jacket is the new gun version of OCC. IE: shitty ugly worthless crap.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:03 AM   #25765
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Yep, time them to all be firing when the others are between shots. Sequentially.
Yeah!

Hey, what if you rotated the barrels around a central point, maybe use an electric motor to spin them and feed all the rounds through a central receiver which would then load the rounds and fire them as the barrels spin past...


Nah, that's a dumb idea, nobody would do that...
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:48 AM   #25766
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Yeah!

Hey, what if you rotated the barrels around a central point, maybe use an electric motor to spin them and feed all the rounds through a central receiver which would then load the rounds and fire them as the barrels spin past...


Nah, that's a dumb idea, nobody would do that...
I was going to call this one a Mini Mini Gun after the sequential firing comment. I have a cool T shirt with a picture of a Minigun on it and the caption reads, GE, we bring good things to life!
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:59 AM   #25768
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:33 PM   #25769
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I was going to call this one a Mini Mini Gun after the sequential firing comment. I have a cool T shirt with a picture of a Minigun on it and the caption reads, GE, we bring good things to life!
There WAS one of these, the XM214 SixPak. Cyclic was variable, up to 10,000 RPM. http://world.guns.ru/machine/usa/xm214-microgun-e.html
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:51 PM   #25770
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There WAS one of these, the XM214 SixPak. Cyclic was variable, up to 10,000 RPM. http://world.guns.ru/machine/usa/xm214-microgun-e.html
Um, I know. I was in the Army for 10 years as an 18B. I was being facetious when I said that about this double barrel M4, and kind of referring to the other poster who said it needed two more barrels. Oh, and BTW the X on a military weapon refers to experimental. They get that until they are accepted for general military use. XM177E2, XM25...and so on.
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