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Old 07-20-2012, 02:36 PM   #26221
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It won't hurt the gun, it just won't be accurate.

"big holes in the pattern" = places where birds fly through your shot "cloud"
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:55 PM   #26222
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Shot shells will shoot OK in it but you need to also remember to NOT shoot rifled slugs in it, rifled slugs are for NON rifled barrels, regular slugs are for rifled barrels, and shot is OK in a rifled barrel but don't expect super accuracy out of it with shot....and check the manual which probably tells you this.
damn it.. just got back from Fukkmart with two boxes (30 shells) of Remington Rifled Slugs :(
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:03 PM   #26223
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damn it.. just got back from Fukkmart with two boxes (30 shells) of Remington Rifled Slugs :(
If I was close I would buy them from you. Or consider that if you are going to a range then you might trade shots with another shooter or sell the box there, or use you shots in their gun. Just a thought
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:50 PM   #26224
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thanks for the idea!


to be clear, the Rifled Slugs are bad JUST as far as accuracy OR they can damage my barrel.?
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:07 PM   #26225
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thanks for the idea!


to be clear, the Rifled Slugs are bad JUST as far as accuracy OR they can damage my barrel.?
The regular slugger ones?

Nah, not as long as you use the correct choke (IC i think).

Sabot would be ideal. Shoot a few and see how they group. Could range from great to terrible. If terrible then give them to someone who'll enjoy them like me.
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:08 PM   #26226
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The box of truth shot different slugs through different barrels:

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Lessons learned:
1. Sabot slugs in a rifled barrel are very accurate.
2. Shooting sabot slugs through a smooth bore is a waste of money. They will "work" but accuracy suffers and there is no reason to spend the extra money for sabot slugs if you are going to shoot them through a smooth bore. Besides, if they are not flying straight and nose-first, they will not expand as designed.
3. Different shotguns "like" different loads. Just like rifles and pistols. You must try different loads to find what your gun "likes".
4. Shooting a non-sabot rifled slug through a rifled barrel can cause them to shoot into very nice groups.
5. When we got home and cleaned the rifled barrel, the five non-sabot, rifled slugs had not really deposited any lead that we could notice. The barrel cleaned-up sparkling clean very easily.
6. It's fun to shoot stuff.
http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot45.htm
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:24 PM   #26227
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The box of truth shot different slugs through different barrels:



http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot45.htm

THANKS!!
according to 4 and 5 I should be good with rifled slugs.

I just shot two rounds in the backyard and seems fine, but can't tell much with only two shots..
Need to take this thing to the field, one thing I know for sure.. KICK like a mule!!
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Old 07-21-2012, 04:56 AM   #26228
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has anyone got experience with the new Smith & Wesson M&P 22? I'm looking for something like my large frame .40 that will reliably shoot 22lr bulk. Reviews say it will, but real life is worth a lot.

Not really interested in a Sig Mosquito or Walther P22 because of the really picky ammo requirements.
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Old 07-21-2012, 05:33 AM   #26229
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has anyone got experience with the new Smith & Wesson M&P 22? I'm looking for something like my large frame .40 that will reliably shoot 22lr bulk. Reviews say it will, but real life is worth a lot.

Not really interested in a Sig Mosquito or Walther P22 because of the really picky ammo requirements.
Yes. I have fired a few of them, and they are good to go.

Just don't expect consistent sub-moa accuracy.
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:08 AM   #26230
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has anyone got experience with the new Smith & Wesson M&P 22? I'm looking for something like my large frame .40 that will reliably shoot 22lr bulk. Reviews say it will, but real life is worth a lot.

Not really interested in a Sig Mosquito or Walther P22 because of the really picky ammo requirements.
From what I've read, they don't feed anything and everything like S$W claims they will, but that they will reliably feed just about anything much better than the other more finicky 22 pistols.
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:13 AM   #26231
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While I was visiting the Barber Museum, I stopped in the Pro Bass Shop just down the road. A remarkable place, with more outdoor stuff than is imaginable. Of course, since Alabama is about 180 degrees from NYS in handgun tolerance, there were more handguns on display than I ever saw in guarding arsenals in the Marines.

I tried out a Glock .40 cal pistol and was saddened to find out that due to ligament damage, it caused me too much pain to handle, even without the weight of a loaded magazine. I need to do more hand exercises and find a lighter piece. Suggestions?
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:29 AM   #26232
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I tried out a Glock .40 cal pistol and was saddened to find out that due to ligament damage, it caused me too much pain to handle, even without the weight of a loaded magazine. I need to do more hand exercises and find a lighter piece. Suggestions?
I recommend consulting a physical therapist, there is just too many ways to make yourself worse without some professional input.

Good luck!
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:43 AM   #26233
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Something to consider here. If merely holding the gun causes you pain because of the weight you have to remember that there will be recoil forces as well. If mere weight is painful what are you going to do when the thing goes off? You will feel several pounds of force both to the rear and in an upward motion due to recoil and in the case of something like the 40 it will be a very sharp and snappy recoil. It would be rather a BAD thing to actually lose control of the gun and have it go flying willy nilly because your grip is incapable of handling the recoil and weight.

The lighter the gun the HIGHER the recoil forces in any cartridge. There is less mass to absorb the recoil impulse so more is transmitted to your hand. If your disability is such that just holding thew weapon is a problem you might want to think about what shooting it will do. I strongly suggest you go to a range with a buddy and shoot some different weapons, starting with a 22 then work up. I also STRONGLY suggest you single load the gun as well so that if you do lose control it will be with an empty gun not a loaded one.

Having had my right wrist rebuilt twice and currently held together with a mesh I understand the idea of pain while shooting. It took a while for me to get back into shooting condition through therapy and plain hard headed determination. Unless you are willing to accept the fact that it will hurt and drive on anyhow you might want to reconsider shooting. I wish you well in the endeavor, seriously.





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While I was visiting the Barber Museum, I stopped in the Pro Bass Shop just down the road. A remarkable place, with more outdoor stuff than is imaginable. Of course, since Alabama is about 180 degrees from NYS in handgun tolerance, there were more handguns on display than I ever saw in guarding arsenals in the Marines.

I tried out a Glock .40 cal pistol and was saddened to find out that due to ligament damage, it caused me too much pain to handle, even without the weight of a loaded magazine. I need to do more hand exercises and find a lighter piece. Suggestions?
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:58 AM   #26234
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has anyone got experience with the new Smith & Wesson M&P 22? I'm looking for something like my large frame .40 that will reliably shoot 22lr bulk. Reviews say it will, but real life is worth a lot.

Not really interested in a Sig Mosquito or Walther P22 because of the really picky ammo requirements.
Get yourself a GSG 1911 .22. I have two (one me, one wife) and they are great. Mix all kinds of ammo and hardly ever a misfire and never clean them.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:14 AM   #26235
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So I am in the market for a concealed carry sidearm!

I am a long gun guy and really don't have too much experience with current semi-auto offerings. I've shot plenty of wheel guns over the years, formerly had a Browning Hi Power which I loved, a 1911 in 38 Super and currently have a Ruger P-whatever which is heavier than a gallon of milk. I need something to stay on my hip without pulling my pants down. If I had it my way, I'd wear a 1911 but that is just to much gun to wear comfortably and conceal.

Caliber not critical, 9mm, 40 cal, whatever.
Brand: whatever, Glock, Sig, etc.
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