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Old 10-12-2012, 02:09 PM   #27091
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:19 PM   #27092
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I generally like Glocks, but keep in mind the G17 has a DAO trigger while the Sig SP 2022 has a DA/SA trigger. For some folks that's the deciding factor.
How is the G17 a double action trigger? I thought a double action required a hammer which the trigger pull cocked as it was pulled?
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:22 PM   #27093
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How is the G17 a double action trigger? I thought a double action required a hammer which the trigger pull cocked as it was pulled?
Technically it isn't either, but it's classified as a DAO.

It's single action in the sense that the slide must be actuated so that the striker can be "pre-cocked" or else pulling the trigger won't do anything. But if the striker were dropped from the pre cocked position it wouldn't have enough energy to set off the primer. You must pull the trigger to fully cock and then release the striker, much like a DAO revolver or pistol.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:35 PM   #27094
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Technically it isn't either, but it's classified as a DAO.

It's single action in the sense that the slide must be actuated so that the striker can be "pre-cocked" or else pulling the trigger won't do anything. But if the striker were dropped from the pre cocked position it wouldn't have enough energy to set off the primer. You must pull the trigger to fully cock and then release the striker, much like a DAO revolver or pistol.
Thanks for stating that better than I. The point I was trying to make is that the Glock trigger will feel like a Glock trigger, while the SIG will feel like a "normal" DA/SA trigger. So depending on your firearm usage history, you may feel more at home with one over the other, and use one better than the other. In either case, I'll let someone chime in with first-person usage.

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Old 10-12-2012, 03:21 PM   #27095
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Don't tell Glock that. They appear to consider it neither. (SA = Safe Action)

“Safe Action”® System GLOCK’s revolutionary “Safe Action”® System provides a consistent trigger pull from the first to the last round. The three automatic independently operating mechanical safeties are built into the fire control system of the pistol. All three safeties disengage sequentially as the trigger is pulled and automatically reengage when the trigger is released. This safe, simple and fast system allows the user to concentrate fully on tactical tasks, particularly while under stress.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:52 PM   #27096
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I have watched that one quite a few times, it doesn't come any where near "my" version of reality but they do at times produce some pretty impressive firearms from big blocks of metal. They don't seem to have as much 'conflict' as many so-called reality shows but that was beginning to change when the show finished the past season. Far too much money spent on fancy paint jobs, engraving and plating for my tastes. I have to wonder if one can buy a CNC program to 'build your own' 1911, SAA or Winchester 92 or if someone there actually has the talent to write one. Lacking any good shows with a firearms theme, I won't turn it off when I happen across it.


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Old 10-12-2012, 07:40 PM   #27097
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Thought I would ask the inmates...

Is $880 a good price for a numbers matching 1941 Luger in good condition?

If you don't want it I might be interested.
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:58 PM   #27098
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If you don't want it I might be interested.
I passed on it. I just bought a .30 Carbine and I couldn't justify the additional expense.

It is in my brother's personal collection and he says it isn't leaving. He has a lot of cool stuff.
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:08 PM   #27099
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I am confident that I can produce anything they've shown on any part of any episode I've seen of that show with less drama and more awesome.

I am an engineer, CNC machinist, and gun enthusiast.

I certainly believe that!
Even without the theatrics (no doubt encouraged by the director and certainly not anything that helps the shop be productive), no one there impresses me as being particularly brilliant.
I do wonder as to whether they have the capability to 'reverse engineer' some of what they end up producing or if the programs are out there for sale to 'plug in to' a CNC? My very limited machine shop time ended almost 40 years ago so I am always impressed with what 'appears' when they pop it off the mill.
That said, there isn't much that has come from that shop that I really wanted to own.


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I am confident that I can produce anything they've shown on any part of any episode I've seen of that show with less drama and more awesome.

I am an engineer, CNC machinist, and gun enthusiast.

But do you have one of these?

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Old 10-13-2012, 05:42 AM   #27101
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I am confident that I can produce anything they've shown on any part of any episode I've seen of that show with less drama and more awesome.

I am an engineer, CNC machinist, and gun enthusiast.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:00 AM   #27102
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Okay, so now that I have this nice little (it's really little!) Mini 14, what's the best ammo for it. It's a "fun" gun, I don't hunt. What's cheap, and will not damage the beast? It came with scope rings? Anybody put a scope on one of these? Of course you have.
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What I would NOT use is the steel cased Bear or other Russian or Eastern Euro manufactured cheap stuff with the shellac coating. I use that in my AK 47, mostly because I don't handload 7.62x39 and it's neither easy nor inexpensive to find brass case ammo in that caliber, but nowhere else. Period. BTW, when my son was 12 (he's now 34) and took hunter safety and wanted to hunt, I bought him a Mini-30. He still has it. I liked that gun for him because of the light weight, low recoil, (marginally) adequate power for deer at under 100 yards, and also the fact that, since the kiddo is left-handed, he could deal with a semi-auto slightly better than with a right-handed bolt. We never shot crap steel-cased ammo in that gun, always made sure we could find some decent brass stuff even though it cost about twice as much.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:01 AM   #27103
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But do you have one of these?
I'm an engineer... so, no.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:59 PM   #27105
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Ruger LCR vs. SP101 vs. what have you?

Ok so I had a few minutes at the local dealer, and I've been thinking about snubby revolvers lately.

Held a S&W Bodyguard and an Airweight, neither really felt that good in my hands, grips just felt tiny. Picked up an LCR in .38 spl and loved the fit and trigger feel. The .357 felt the same, but felt just a hair heavier (which, from what I've read about snubbies, is a good thing).

have not held an SP101, but that is also on the list to look at.

Any thoughts on the relative merits? I hear a lot about SP101, but not much about the LCR, anything to watch out for with it? (yes, I know, polymer is evil, but any real-world issues?)


edit: Oh, and I already have an LC9 and a GP100, if I buy another Ruger does it mean there's something wrong with me?
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