The I LOVE THIS GUN Thread

[Signal]

Originally Posted by fishwich

Bought it yesterday and had some time to take it out today. Fits my hand well. Accurate and easy to keep on target.

Lovely

[HardCase]

Originally Posted by gatling

Anybody else have one of these? It's a Herter's .44 magnum, made for them by Sauer in Germany. Well constructed and accurate; no longer available.

I don't own one, but remember seeing the ads and even handling one once, musta been back in the late '60s-early 70s. Interesting old gun.

I realize at times that I'm getting old, that guns which were made when I was a kid or young man are now collectibles!!

[CurtOKC]

Also offered in 401 supermag and 357 atomic as I recall. Sauer later built a SA revolver for Interarms.

[KeithinSC]

Originally Posted by RuggedExposure

If you are going to go with a Form 1 route (instead of a Form 4), you must have the lower receiver engraved with your name and location or the name of your gun trust. It has to be actually engraved and not laser etched. Once this is approved with a tax stamp you can put whatever upper on there as you wish and change bbl lengths. You can even change calibers as you please. I am currently building an 8" upper for this chambered in 300BLK.

I built this mainly as a toy, its really only dependable up to 50 yards. But it makes a great truck gun or for room clearing.

The silencer itself is considered a firearm and has its own tax stamp, so I can move it from rifle to rifle without purchasing additional stamps. The can is a 7.62 silencer but works awesome on 5.56 as well.

Thanks for the insight. I also have been thinking about jumping in to the tax stamp world. But I was hoping for one receiver, one silencer, but two different short barreled uppers. One 22lr and one in .308
Looks like I have A LOT more research to do

[RuggedExposure]

Originally Posted by KeithinSC

Thanks for the insight. I also have been thinking about jumping in to the tax stamp world. But I was hoping for one receiver, one silencer, but two different short barreled uppers. One 22lr and one in .308
Looks like I have A LOT more research to do

I've got three tax stamps so far- SBR, .22 silencer, 7.62 silencer. It becomes an addiction, similar to motorcycles. I have 3 motorcycles too now that I think about it. hmmm....

I would like a .45 silencer and a SBS (short barreled shotgun) by the time all is said an done.

The .22 can is a fun one because you can get one cheap (I paid $207 for mine) and they are quiet and cheap to shoot.

[Fire Escape]

Originally Posted by RuggedExposure

If you are going to go with a Form 1 route (instead of a Form 4), you must have the lower receiver engraved with your name and location or the name of your gun trust. It has to be actually engraved and not laser etched. Once this is approved with a tax stamp you can put whatever upper on there as you wish and change bbl lengths. You can even change calibers as you please. I am currently building an 8" upper for this chambered in 300BLK.

I built this mainly as a toy, its really only dependable up to 50 yards. But it makes a great truck gun or for room clearing.

The silencer itself is considered a firearm and has its own tax stamp, so I can move it from rifle to rifle without purchasing additional stamps. The can is a 7.62 silencer but works awesome on 5.56 as well.

That brings new meaning to the term "dedicated lower'. How would a Form 4 apply? Serial number for the barrel? or buying a 'complete SBR rather than converting? My (formerly great) medical insurance seems to be requiring that this project wait until next year guess I have time to research more (although using the time to get an approval would be smarter). Thanks.

Perhaps I should have done more research before getting my YHM 3600, could have gotten a 7.62 and moved it around.Now I need one in .30 and .45!

Bruce

[gatling]

Originally Posted by HardCase

I don't own one, but remember seeing the ads and even handling one once, musta been back in the late '60s-early 70s. Interesting old gun.

I realize at times that I'm getting old, that guns which were made when I was a kid or young man are now collectibles!!

Yeah, getting old can be disturbing sometimes. I remember stuff and then realize it was 40 or 50 years ago. Scary.

Back to the Herters...I was impressed with the accuracy of that old .44. Using a hot load with the wrong bullet (swaged Speer 240 grain bullets in front of a near max 2400 load), on an indoor range shooting two-handed (but no rest) the Herters .44 shoots five rounds through one ragged hole on a regular basis. You'd think the leading that resulted from that load would have killed its accuracy, but it didn't. The lockup is very tight and apparently the timing is perfect, along with everything else that goes into making a revolver sing. Those boys at Sauer knew a thing or two about making guns, I guess.

There are a couple of the .401 Powermags on Gunbroker right now. The .401 guns tend to go for relatively high prices, and then there's always the issue of finding brass. I don't know if the bullet for the Powermags was actually .401 or if it used something that is relatively available, but the brass issue is enough to make me take a pass. In .44 Mag, though, these are pretty interesting handguns.

When the .44 Herters revolvers show up on the gunboards, they usually go for pretty reasonable prices. The workmanship on my Herters is of typical German quality (very high), and for what they sell for (usually a couple of hundred bucks or less) they are outstanding values. Mine ain't for sale...for that kind of money I'm hanging on to it.

[gatling]

In the same general line of discussion, has anybody had any experience with the Cimarron line of SAA replicas? I saw one of those at a local shop and I have been thinking about buying one.

[ttpete]

Originally Posted by Boondoggle

That's cool. I shot a lot of partridge (that's vermont for grouse) and rabbit when I was a kid using my great grandfather's hardware-store 20 ga single shot. It's probably ten years or so newer than your model 12.

We call 'em pats here, too. I said grouse because someone might have become confused.

[ttpete]

Originally Posted by gatling

Anybody else have one of these? It's a Herter's .44 magnum, made for them by Sauer in Germany. Well constructed and accurate; no longer available.

I have one in .357. There was also one in .401 Herters Powermag, a proprietary cartridge. They were made by Sauer.

[EvilGenius]

Originally Posted by gatling

In the same general line of discussion, has anybody had any experience with the Cimarron line of SAA replicas? I saw one of those at a local shop and I have been thinking about buying one.

They're rebadged Ubertis.

Occasionally I come across someone complaining about reliability or a manufacturing mistake, but it seems to be on the cheaper models that Uberti is known for having issues with on occasion.

[Achtung]

Quandry of the day. I can buy a Colt 1911 in 9mm from circa 1983 or a new Ruger 1911 in 45 for about the same money. I like the idea of a 1911 in 9mm so tat its cheaper to shoot but I'm wondering if there is any consensus on the general quality of Colts from this era.

[Fire Escape]

Originally Posted by Achtung

Quandry of the day. I can buy a Colt 1911 in 9mm from circa 1983 or a new Ruger 1911 in 45 for about the same money. I like the idea of a 1911 in 9mm so tat its cheaper to shoot but I'm wondering if there is any consensus on the general quality of Colts from this era.

From what I remember of Colts back 30 years ago (not necessarily AR's). If you wanted to shoot one, you bought it and delivered it to the gunsmith of your choice before even bothering to shoot it, saved a lot of frustration that way. I am sure that there were some good guns that left the factory, but a lot were not so good. They couldn't even make a functional SAA (after 110 years of practice) much of the time, guess they figured most were going to be safe queens and never fired anyway so why bother. Pythons and Troopers were usually pretty good but a dying breed. I overheard a discussion at the range today about finding an older used gun in great shape, could have been lightly used by someone who took great care of it OR, could have been a POS that didn't work/shoot well enough to bother taking out and using. Good luck with which ever one you choose.



Bruce

[acesandeights]

Originally Posted by Achtung

Quandry of the day. I can buy a Colt 1911 in 9mm from circa 1983 or a new Ruger 1911 in 45 for about the same money. I like the idea of a 1911 in 9mm so tat its cheaper to shoot but I'm wondering if there is any consensus on the general quality of Colts from this era.

I can't imagine a 30 year old Colt that hasn't been thoroughly gone through by a qualified gunsmith. I've never known a person with such a gun that hasn't fixed any factory defect (real or imagined) with a better part(s). I will say I like Ruger and I like .45 more than Colt or 9mm.

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