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Old 12-22-2012, 03:12 PM   #27871
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Well, I ran about 65 rounds thru the Hi Power today, first time shooting it.

I did a break in of shooting one round, the cleaning and drying the bore, then another round - did that 10 times as one website suggested.
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Educate me. Is this "normal"? Never heard of this before. What does this accomplish? In theory? In practice? Sounds to me kind of like using Campy derailers over Dura Ace to save 5 grams of weight, when the rider is 30 pounds over weight?
I can see an olympic bull's competitor may have a few rituals, but.....really?

I "broke in" my new 1911 by seeing how fast I could go through a box of 50! LOL!!
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:30 PM   #27872
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Well, I ran about 65 rounds thru the Hi Power today, first time shooting it.

I did a break in of shooting one round, the cleaning and drying the bore, then another round - did that 10 times as one website suggested.

I bought a box of 100 of the 'bulk' Winchester 115 gr FMJ's, and I was impressed - right out of the box not a single mis-load - they feed just fine. I have four other brands to test over time.

Now, if only the shooter was as reliable. I can see that I'm going to need considerable range time and at least several hundred rounds to get accurate at 25 yards. I also need to tweak the sights but when your as inconsistant as I was, well, it's hard to be sure if it's the shooter or the sights at the moment.

I love the feel of the pistol though, it feels really smooth in everything except the trigger release - which I understand is notoriously hard - I'm sure I'll adjust to it quickly - it's got a fairly long intial take up, then a good squeeze is needed to fire it - I guess you can get that adjusted by a good gunsmith. Nice feel in the hand and the modest power of the cartridge makes it painless to shoot, one of my goals.
Half of that trigger pull is caused by the magazine safety that keeps the gun from firing with the mag out. It can be removed.
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:32 PM   #27873
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Half of that trigger pull is caused by the magazine safety that keeps the gun from firing with the mag out. It can be removed.
Yes, that is the first thing that needs to be done to a Hi-Power. Save the parts because if the gun is ever transferred it won't be legal unless the mag safety is installed. If the parts are lost they are easy to reorder.
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:45 PM   #27874
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Yes, that is the first thing that needs to be done to a Hi-Power. Save the parts because if the gun is ever transferred it won't be legal unless the mag safety is installed. If the parts are lost they are easy to reorder.
Legal for what? There's no law against removing a magazine safety anywhere I know of. The only reason it was designed that way was because the military customers required it. 1911s have never had one.
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Old 12-22-2012, 05:24 PM   #27875
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Legal for what? There's no law against removing a magazine safety anywhere I know of. The only reason it was designed that way was because the military customers required it. 1911s have never had one.

Maybe depends on state law?
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Old 12-22-2012, 05:33 PM   #27876
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Here in draconian MA, it is one of the required features for newly mfg'd guns, but there is nothing prohibiting post sale modification. I can't think of any other state (NJ? NY? ) that have similar laws in place for safety features.
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Old 12-22-2012, 05:34 PM   #27877
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Maybe depends on state law?
Only state I know that gets specific about short guns is CA.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:52 PM   #27878
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Educate me. Is this "normal"? Never heard of this before. What does this accomplish? In theory? In practice? Sounds to me kind of like using Campy derailers over Dura Ace to save 5 grams of weight, when the rider is 30 pounds over weight?
I can see an olympic bull's competitor may have a few rituals, but.....really?

I "broke in" my new 1911 by seeing how fast I could go through a box of 50! LOL!!
Looked up breaking in a new pistol on the web and this was one procedure that seemed to make some sense - and since it was not exactly a real burden to do, I thought I only get to do it once - This is the first new one I've ever bought, all the rest were used when I got them.

I suppose if I were asked to explain it, would be a nice clean bore with a few passes to improve the inital wear? I dunno. Like I said, no biggie either way.

I'm sure this procedure does nothing for the remainder of the mechanism which I expect to break in using a more conventional method - firing it a few hundred times.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:21 PM   #27879
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Half of that trigger pull is caused by the magazine safety that keeps the gun from firing with the mag out. It can be removed.
Found a webpage with the instructions - that's a bit more than I'm comfortable with, but I'm sure I can find someone to do this for me.

I wonder if polishing the magazine slide spot would improve it in the interim.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:48 PM   #27880
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Legal for what? There's no law against removing a magazine safety anywhere I know of. The only reason it was designed that way was because the military customers required it. 1911s have never had one.
It is not a law but an FFL may refuse to trade for it or transfer it without the mag safety. I was going to trade my Hi-Power for .45 auto in Florida and the gun shop said they couldn't take it because of the lack of the mag safety and that it was required for FFL transfers. Part of a gun shops inspection it seems to verify that the weapon is 'safe'.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:42 PM   #27881
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How many rounds in that mag? Do you target shoot with it? Seems unfair to go after some critter with it. Cool looking gun though.
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That is just a 30 round Pmag.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:42 PM   #27882
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:56 PM   #27883
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It is not a law but an FFL may refuse to trade for it or transfer it without the mag safety. I was going to trade my Hi-Power for .45 auto in Florida and the gun shop said they couldn't take it because of the lack of the mag safety and that it was required for FFL transfers. Part of a gun shops inspection it seems to verify that the weapon is 'safe'.
They may require it as part of their policy - maybe for liability reasons, but there sure isn't any federal law with regards to that feature.

Given that a pinning or removing the mag safety is one of the first things a high end combat mod shop will do (for various reasons), I would think that would be something a gun shop would understand, but there you go.

Personally I think most safeties are superfulous and some even cause problems in various scenarios (if you are grappling with an assailant and the assailant manages to hit the mag drop button, with a mag safety they have just disarmed you), I certainly don't think a firearm with a disabled or removed mag safety is a liability.

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Old 12-23-2012, 12:29 AM   #27884
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If I buy a gun from a gun dealer is it registered to me. Or are they just doing a background check/ waiting period.
How do I sell that gun?
How do I transfer registration?

Last time I bought a gun from a dealer was about 15 years ago
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:29 AM   #27885
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as above, that's my next purchase. What a sweet trigger, dont forget to report back after you've put some rounds through it.
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