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Old 02-06-2013, 09:06 PM   #28531
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Interestingly, it has a selector and much the same full-auto linkage as an M14 It also appears to have stripper clip guides.
I don't get it. Why not just get the M14, then?
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:32 PM   #28532
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And you can get your own version of that for about $1400 or so. $550 for a field grade Garand from the CMP, then another $800 to Shuff's Parkerizing for a rebarrel to 308 and M14 mag conversion.



And while you're at it, Shuff can also shorten the barrel and other mods to really make that old girl dance again
I am digging that! It seems like sacrilege to do that to a Garand, but I am considering it.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:02 AM   #28533
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Would I be mistaken to think he's gonna potentially have either some powder burned or very sore fingertips from being that close to the ejection port?
I was watching that as well...the fingers are SO close.

The poster that brought up cost is spot on...the between the wars military was pretty small and with an itsy bitsy budget. Poland had a military in better shape. (land forces specifically) It was not till things heated up in europe that FDR saw the wrighting on the wall and got the navy a few battleships as well as a new class of carrier laid down....they also started work on tanks.....in that climate it is really amazing they got the garand up and going.

A few different militaries started looking at different cartridges in the between war years, England, US, a few others, but the depression, and WWII starting put the end to that.....takes a GREAT deal of money to switch over all military arms to a new cartridge....something the US is working with now....is it really worth all that money to change?
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:16 AM   #28534
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I don't get it. Why not just get the M14, then?


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Yeah, the T20 models are pretty interesting.



And you can get your own version of that for about $1400 or so. $550 for a field grade Garand from the CMP, then another $800 to Shuff's Parkerizing for a rebarrel to 308 and M14 mag conversion.



And while you're at it, Shuff can also shorten the barrel and other mods to really make that old girl dance again
I am digging that! It seems like sacrilege to do that to a Garand, but I am considering it.
My thoughts too... "Wow! That'd be cool... but a damned shame to do it to the International Harvester. Better off buying an M1A."
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:20 AM   #28535
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My thoughts too... "Wow! That'd be cool... but a damned shame to do it to the International Harvester. Better off buying an M1A."
Yeah, two sides of the coin. Might be a bit easier to get an M1A, pricewise they seem to start ~$1500 level. YMMV etc etc. The other side is that if you mod a mixmaster Garand you're out maybe $1400 ish total. You can recoup some of that cost with the leftover parts from the conversion. Another item is quality; I would have no qualms whatsoever with using Shuff, but I do hear things about SA. No first hand from me, but it does come up.

I am totally in the dark regarding M14 pricing, but have come across parts kits sans receiver for $1250-1300. So add the receiver and any smith work needed.

Any option looks fun honestly
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:38 AM   #28536
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Yeah, two sides of the coin. Might be a bit easier to get an M1A, pricewise they seem to start ~$1500 level. YMMV etc etc. The other side is that if you mod a mixmaster Garand you're out maybe $1400 ish total. You can recoup some of that cost with the leftover parts from the conversion. Another item is quality; I would have no qualms whatsoever with using Shuff, but I do hear things about SA. No first hand from me, but it does come up.

I am totally in the dark regarding M14 pricing, but have come across parts kits sans receiver for $1250-1300. So add the receiver and any smith work needed.

Any option looks fun honestly

There's also the whole deal with the garand being a forged (stronger) receiver vs the cast m1as, whether that really matters, I'm not sure.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:08 AM   #28537
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Just get one of these, 18" barrel, no mods necessary.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:16 AM   #28538
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There's also the whole deal with the garand being a forged (stronger) receiver vs the cast m1as, whether that really matters, I'm not sure.
Investment cast steel is plenty strong. Almost every Ruger is investment cast, and almost every 1911 made today is also. Ruger pioneered the process in the firearms industry. It eliminates the forging process and cuts way down on machining costs.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:16 AM   #28539
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My thoughts too... "Wow! That'd be cool... but a damned shame to do it to the International Harvester. Better off buying an M1A."
Me being me would hate to do it, paint eye glasses and a stash on the mona lisa.....and Garand people are really all over the place, some look down upon the Korean vintage rifles like the IH and think that the WWII are the only way to go. Personally I think that all garands....heck all military rifles should be left as they are....why mess with them. You can get something new(er) that will shoot better for less money.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:25 AM   #28540
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Just get one of these, 18" barrel, no mods necessary.
I was really close to getting one of those, but changed my mind at the last minute to an AR for flexibility and also familiarity and ambidexterous capability for the gf.

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Investment cast steel is plenty strong. Almost every Ruger is investment cast, and almost every 1911 made today is also. Ruger pioneered the process in the firearms industry. It eliminates the forging process and cuts way down on machining costs.
I figured as much, or else they'd be failing left and right.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:53 AM   #28541
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I was really close to getting one of those, but changed my mind at the last minute to an AR for flexibility and also familiarity and ambidexterous capability for the gf.
What's not ambidextrous about an M1A ??
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:56 AM   #28542
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I've got an AR too, Mini 14 & FNFAL, lots of evil in my safe.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:34 AM   #28543
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Just get one of these, 18" barrel, no mods necessary.

i hate to ask but can I get some intel on the long handled personal defense implement or the edged utility device, what ever you want to call it
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:47 AM   #28544
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What are the thoughts on these in 10mm:



Anyone own one?
No comments on this so I decided to find out for myself. I like. So far it appears to be a tack driver. Need to get the mount for the red dot (those four holes are drilled and tapped for it on each side). Think I'll put a Burris fastfire on rather than a C More though.
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What's not ambidextrous about an M1A ??
Charging handle, but that's not the only reason.
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