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Old 02-15-2013, 05:00 PM   #28636
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Ok, that is what I will try. Do you think 30W50 is better than 10W40?





Thanks for that idea. Seems there is a big following of good old motor oil provided it is synthetic. Quite a few references by military personnel, even though it is not officially sanctioned.



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I think I use 5W-30, but I'll have to check. The cool thing is it goes a long way too.

I initially used hoppes on my 1911, then clp/rem oil. I still use the clp to clean, but I started using the motor oil and it definitely feels slicker.

Same for my nova, it's still teething, but there is quite a difference between lubing with rem oil and with motor oil. I feels super smooth now.

YMMV.

Of course there's advantages and dis advantages. If you shoot often, a good lube is imperative, but if you shoot a certain firearm once every 6 months or so, then a quick wipe down and into the safe. Then maybe an ok lubricant, but better preservative should be used. From the tests I've seen online, some forms of clp preserve bareuntreated steel better than motor oil, but it's not nearly as good at keeping metal-on-metal wear down, etc.
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Old 02-15-2013, 05:05 PM   #28637
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A while back I had acquired a TZ-75 that did the same thing. Normal cleaning didn't correct the problem. Then upon further examination I discovered a large powder buildup under the extractor, keeping it from fully engaging the cartridge rim. Used a dental pic and solvent to remove the crud, problem went away.
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Old 02-15-2013, 05:08 PM   #28638
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I had no issues for about 800 rounds since new, then out of the blue it started. Very frustrating. Same ammo, similar conditions, maybe a little colder. All I did was remove the mag safety.

I am shooting this weekend and will concentrate on the grip and provide feedback.
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Doesn't sound like your grip if you got off the first 800 without a problem. The mag safetey removal shouldn't matter, but have you tried putting it back in and shooting it? Could the mag safty removal cause striker problems? Maybe the striker or extractor is dirty or gummed up.
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:25 PM   #28639
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:08 PM   #28640
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Make sure to remind him that the stuff on guns from the factory is not lubricant, its a preservative. There is a difference.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:08 AM   #28641
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Doesn't sound like your grip if you got off the first 800 without a problem. The mag safetey removal shouldn't matter, but have you tried putting it back in and shooting it? Could the mag safty removal cause striker problems? Maybe the striker or extractor is dirty or gummed up.
I removed the striker when I removed the mag safety and it is now very clean. How will a striker issue prevent a cartridge from being extracted properly? A striker issue may cause a misfire due to a lack of force, but surely not extracting, unless half-cocking the striker is stiff and that prevents the slide from moving all the way back. However a new cartridge is picked up and pushed into the semi extracted one. Here is a picture (not my pistol):


The extractor is also clean.

I however do not quite understand how a dirty extractor can cause FTE issues. With a direct blowback action as in an auto pistol, does the cartridge not push the slide back and is the extractor not merely there to keep the cartridge on the face to position it correctly for the ejector to eject the spent cartridge? This is not a gas action rifle where there is a gas piston to push the slide back and extract the spent cartridge. Or am I misunderstanding something here?



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Old 02-16-2013, 04:21 AM   #28642
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I removed the striker when I removed the mag safety and it is now very clean. How will a striker issue prevent a cartridge from being extracted properly? A striker issue may cause a misfire due to a lack of force, but surely not extracting, unless half-cocking the striker is stiff and that prevents the slide from moving all the way back. However a new cartridge is picked up and pushed into the semi extracted one. Here is a picture (not my pistol):


The extractor is also clean.

I however do not quite understand how a dirty extractor can cause FTE issues. With a direct blowback action as in an auto pistol, does the cartridge not push the slide back and is the extractor not merely there to keep the cartridge on the face to position it correctly for the ejector to eject the spent cartridge? This is not a gas action rifle where there is a gas piston to push the slide back and extract the spent cartridge. Or am I misunderstanding something here?



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I recently had a problem with my modified Colt 1911 Officer's Model. It would "stovepipe" jam so I changed the recoil spring. No more "stovepipe" jams but the spent casing would fail to be extracted about every other round, just like your photo indicates. I canged the extractor and, now, all is well with the piece. The old extractor looks okay to my untrained eye but, obviously, it had a bit of wear.

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Old 02-16-2013, 05:02 AM   #28643
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I removed the striker when I removed the mag safety and it is now very clean. How will a striker issue prevent a cartridge from being extracted properly? A striker issue may cause a misfire due to a lack of force, but surely not extracting, unless half-cocking the striker is stiff and that prevents the slide from moving all the way back. However a new cartridge is picked up and pushed into the semi extracted one. Here is a picture (not my pistol):

The extractor is also clean.

I however do not quite understand how a dirty extractor can cause FTE issues. With a direct blowback action as in an auto pistol, does the cartridge not push the slide back and is the extractor not merely there to keep the cartridge on the face to position it correctly for the ejector to eject the spent cartridge? This is not a gas action rifle where there is a gas piston to push the slide back and extract the spent cartridge. Or am I misunderstanding something here?

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You’re right about the striker, a light strike would cause a misfire not an FTE. I’m also wrong about the extractor, your understanding of how the extractor works with the ejector is right on. Good luck with your shooting this weekend
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That looks like a sissy gun. Hell, it even says "SIS" on the side ...

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Old 02-16-2013, 08:43 AM   #28647
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That looks like a sissy gun. Hell, it even says "SIS" on the side ...

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Old 02-16-2013, 10:12 AM   #28650
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I just know you guys can help me on this. I need a good pistol case. One pistol. 1911. I bought a Safari case, which looks really cool, but upon further investigation, the lock system is just CRAP! It's going back to the store.
What do you guys use? Like to keep it below a hun. I'm a poor bush pilot. Thanks
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