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Old 02-23-2013, 08:40 PM   #28771
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Oh, BTW, hit Wally-world today for a box of clay piegons and land o'goshen, they had 100 round boxes of 9mm, and .40 S&W, AND still had a bit of .22 LR. Wow. Of course with a three box limit. At least I kept close to what I shot today, I am down a box of .40, but I've got plenty - looks like there's a trickle making it to the market.

Guy at the counter said that they had a HUGE shipment and even had the 525 round boxes of .22, which I really want one, maybe two of. He had a shopping cart at the register that was full of flattened cartons that contained todays shipment of ammo.

As my shooting buddy observed: They got plenty of 12 Gauge, we will just shoot Skeet. I am getting a lot better with the Superpoised, plus I found a manual on line to remind me how to disassemble it for easier cleaning.

The new .40 is proving to be as easy to feed as the Browning - smooth firing and so far, perfect loading. Tried the two backstraps as well - oddly the one that feels 'better' to hold, actually bites my hand, the flatter, thinner one feels odder to hold but seems less painful to shoot. Going to try that again to be sure, its a whip to change 'em.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:17 PM   #28772
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They cannot make you get rid of them. Some excerpts from various sites on the subject: Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 and further sections apply to the states as well. Ex post facto laws (Latin for "from after the action" or "after the fact"), also called a retroactive law, is a law that retroactively changes the legal consequences (or status) of actions that were committed, or relationships that existed, before the enactment of the law. If your state government tries to make a law and force you to get rid of your mags after you already own them then they are in direct violation of the Constitution.
Even if they did somehow get around that (not likely), they would have to get a warrant to come and take them. A warrant for each home that is. With probable cause.
Blanket warrants are also expressly forbidden.

Illegal search and seizure gets even the gun haters panties in a wad.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:54 PM   #28773
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Oh, BTW, hit Wally-world today for a box of clay piegons and land o'goshen, they had 100 round boxes of 9mm, and .40 S&W, AND still had a bit of .22 LR. Wow.
Hope some of that makes it east to Ohio. I need to stock some more 9mm and .22s' for summer shooting.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:51 AM   #28774
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10 round mags stay legal, but cannot be loaded with more than 7 rounds, which is probably one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard of. "But officer, I must have miscounted". "Sorry, 8 rounds in there, gonna' have to take you in".

who ever said laws have to make sense? here in UK a semi-auto shotgun cant have more than a 2 round magazine, ie must be a 3 shot, or its a firearm not a shotgun (way different licensing, lots more hoops to jump through basically, lots more ). but who makes a semi-auto with only a 2 round mag? so some like berettas have the mag tube crimped so the spring carrier wont go in far enough for more than 2, but most, like my winchester, just have a 4" plastic slug in the mag pretending to be 2 cartridges, which takes about 10secs to take out. like it was ever a huge menace to society anyway.
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:03 AM   #28775
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This gun thread needs more guns and less talk.




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Old 02-24-2013, 05:14 AM   #28776
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:59 AM   #28777
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Finally! After 30 years at the gun club taking chances on every gun raffle that comes along, I finally won one. Savage .243 in camo. Sure, it doesn't fit in to my expected rifles in the gun safe plan, but in the 30 seconds or so I had to decide which of the five guns sitting there to take, it looked closest to something I would actually shoot.
It isn't like the good ole days. You used to just carry the gun off if you won. I got to carry it off, right to the back office where it went back in the box, and in the pile to go back to the gun store where I can go pick it up Wednesday.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:23 AM   #28778
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Finally! After 30 years at the gun club taking chances on every gun raffle that comes along, I finally won one. Savage .243 in camo. Sure, it doesn't fit in to my expected rifles in the gun safe plan, but in the 30 seconds or so I had to decide which of the five guns sitting there to take, it looked closest to something I would actually shoot.
It isn't like the good ole days. You used to just carry the gun off if you won. I got to carry it off, right to the back office where it went back in the box, and in the pile to go back to the gun store where I can go pick it up Wednesday.
We expect a picture Wednseday.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:52 AM   #28779
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It isn't like the good ole days. You used to just carry the gun off if you won. I got to carry it off, right to the back office where it went back in the box, and in the pile to go back to the gun store where I can go pick it up Wednesday.
That's so we can all be safe!
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:14 AM   #28780
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Finally! After 30 years at the gun club taking chances on every gun raffle that comes along, I finally won one. Savage .243 in camo. Sure, it doesn't fit in to my expected rifles in the gun safe plan, but in the 30 seconds or so I had to decide which of the five guns sitting there to take, it looked closest to something I would actually shoot.
It isn't like the good ole days. You used to just carry the gun off if you won. I got to carry it off, right to the back office where it went back in the box, and in the pile to go back to the gun store where I can go pick it up Wednesday.
That's a nice prize. I think that was one of Jack O'Conners favorites - for Pronghorn, IIRC. I'm sure it will be fun.

I'm still pondering the 12BVSS in .308 for range use - they sure are priced attractively for their performance. At this point though, I'm going to hold off until summer at the moment and work on my handgun shooting.

Between ammo hoarding and the concurrent shortages of reloading materials, there's not even any point in buying reloading gear either. Perhaps by summer there might be a slacking off in the ammo shortages - I hope anyway.

To quote Airplane: Looks like I picked the wrong week to start shooting again....
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:40 AM   #28781
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who ever said laws have to make sense? here in UK a semi-auto shotgun cant have more than a 2 round magazine, ie must be a 3 shot, or its a firearm not a shotgun (way different licensing, lots more hoops to jump through basically, lots more ). but who makes a semi-auto with only a 2 round mag? so some like berettas have the mag tube crimped so the spring carrier wont go in far enough for more than 2, but most, like my winchester, just have a 4" plastic slug in the mag pretending to be 2 cartridges, which takes about 10secs to take out. like it was ever a huge menace to society anyway.
Many shotguns (pumps and semi's) sold in the US come with 2 rnd. limiters standard because of the limits for Federal migratory birds. For those who don't shoot Federal migratory birds, you can remove the plugs and or increase the magazine capacity.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:59 AM   #28782
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Bought this Stoeger yesterday. I sold my Savage Fox 12ga a couple years back and instantly had seller's remorse.
The guy threw in 50 rounds of slugs and 00, 000 buck. Can't find buckshot anywhere.



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Old 02-24-2013, 11:12 AM   #28783
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Bought this Stoeger yesterday. I sold my Savage Fox 12ga a couple years back and instantly had seller's remorse.
The guy threw in 50 rounds of slugs and 00, 000 buck. Can't find buckshot anywhere.



Nice, after a discussion in the "bear gun" thread I'm thinking a double 12 would be a nice addition.
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:17 AM   #28784
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That's a nice prize. I think that was one of Jack O'Conners favorites - for Pronghorn, IIRC. I'm sure it will be fun.

I'm still pondering the 12BVSS in .308 for range use - they sure are priced attractively for their performance. At this point though, I'm going to hold off until summer at the moment and work on my handgun shooting.

Between ammo hoarding and the concurrent shortages of reloading materials, there's not even any point in buying reloading gear either. Perhaps by summer there might be a slacking off in the ammo shortages - I hope anyway.

To quote Airplane: Looks like I picked the wrong week to start shooting again....
The Savage in .243 is a great gun, as is the 12BVSS .308. I have one of the latter and it has been a great aquisition for $720. The original fluted barrel is pretty OK, but gets dirty easy. The first three shots and maybe the first six will be .1-.2 inch pattern. I replaced the fluted barrel with a $140 ER Shaw barrel and its is much more stable with changing temperature and doesn't get as dirty so fast.
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:39 AM   #28785
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To quote Airplane: Looks like I picked the wrong week to start shooting again....
Same here. Money's been tight for the last three years or so. And the friend who used to let me shoot at his place (172 acres) moved at about the same time (I hate public ranges).

So just when I started to think I could afford to get back into it, and had a new place to shoot.... BAM!

I'm sitting on about 1200 rounds of .45, 6-700 of .22, 60 .32 S&W, and maybe 100 12g plus some odds & ends for guns I no longer own. Maybe I'll splurge and shoot the .45 a little.





The only good news? The above does not count my "barn finds". I've been helping a friend deal w/ her Father's estate, cleaning out the barns. That guy had ammo everywhere in little dribs & drabs. Mostly .22 & 12g, but all sorts of stuff, some are one-round-here-five-rounds-there. I get to keep all I find in exchange for helping. Some might be collectible (old!, stuff from the '20's to 50's), some might be shot (the not-that-old .22's and 12g), some I'll keep for display.

One center-fire round has "Remington" and "22-20" marks. Looks like a ".22 Hornet". Is it?

Oh, and I found a fancy, Fancy, holster rig for twin 1911's. Still had three rounds of WWII .45 in the loops. Pretty bad shape (dry-rot), but very cool looking. Her Grandfather was General Jonathan Wainwright's aide in WWII, and there's a few Wainwright gifts (some inscribed or autographed) and former possessions in the estate. Hmmmm.

More research (and pics) to follow soon, here and in the "Barn Finds" thread.



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