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Old 03-19-2013, 03:23 PM   #29056
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Walmart has plenty of rifles and shotguns but today, well, someone must have had a party, all the 100 round packs of 12 ga Trap? There were dozens of boxes, all gone today.

I found 9 mm HP's, .40 FMJ and HP's, but only at one out of six shops. No .22 to be had.

BUT, one store, the clerk was kind enough to tell me that they do get a delivery every Thursday - and it's gone by 10:30, so maybe day after tommorrow I'll be there when door opens.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:57 PM   #29057
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so maybe day after tommorrow I'll be there when door opens.
Just curious, but because you desperately need some 22lr, or because everyone else is doing it, you feel the need to as well?
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:13 PM   #29058
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Just curious, but because you desperately need some 22lr, or because everyone else is doing it, you feel the need to as well?
Due to the vast shit-ton of backorders, this stuff won't be easily available for awhile. So, gotta get it when you can if you want to be able to shoot much in the next 6 months.

I don't know about the rest of ya'all, but I have a minimum amount of various calibers I'm comfortable with having on hand. When I drop to that level, I gotta stop shooting if I can't get more. So, like most, I've been buying when I see it, whether I need it immediately or not.

The crazed paranoia starts the shortage, but then the regular guys buying what they can / when they can just to keep shooting, sadly prolongs the shortage.

Oh well...

I've been hoping to run across some deals on trade-in non-black rifle type stuff. Stuff guys traded in on the cheap to jump on the AR bandwagon. Went to a show a few weeks ago, hoping for some used Ruger revolvers or assorted lever gun trade-ins, etc. Instead, quite the opposite. Only revolvers in the joint were LCR's and similar, and a guy with a table of ONLY Pythons, Diamondbacks, and Anacondas. All for $1800 and up.

Friggin' Walking Dead, turning $1500 Pythons into $2k Pythons with their Glam shots
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:49 PM   #29059
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I think there if there is a will there is a way but it is certainly becoming more and more expensive. That said I bought the SD40VE simply because 9mm and 22LR is no where to be found but I kept coming across 40 cal ammo. So I improvised and adapted. In time that might mean getting a judge so I have a hand gun that can shoot .410 ammo as everything else becomes extinct.
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:38 PM   #29060
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Just curious, but because you desperately need some 22lr, or because everyone else is doing it, you feel the need to as well?
Well, I shoot weekly, and would much rather shoot .22 in bulk than 9 or .40 - It's hard to find even a few hundred rounds - If I had a normal supply, I'd probably be buying a brick every couple of weeks.

Saving ammo for some SHTF is sort of stupid, IMHO. Since a house is generally wood and highly flammable, a big stock of gunz/ammo/food can't be defended for long before it would be destroyed.
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:47 PM   #29061
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Saving ammo for some SHTF is sort of stupid, IMHO. Since a house is generally wood and highly flammable, a big stock of gunz/ammo/food can't be defended for long before it would be destroyed.
So geocaching is training for the apocalypse?
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:57 PM   #29062
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So geocaching is training for the apocalypse?
Well, it could be if you are using one as a rendevous/ralley point by pre-arraingement - could be much more secure over HF radio than using someting as prosaic as lat/long.

In the Bay area, having a plan for being separated in an earthquake, including people to contact out of area, and places to meet are typical.

I'm just pointing out the silly fantasy of fighting off an assualt on ones property. Two people could not defend a suburban house against a small group who knew what they were doing - one incendeary grenade and it's all over....And if you are going to run for it, how much stuff will you already be carrying and how much ammo load can you afford to carry?

I'm just saying that even 1,000 rounds of 9 MM weighs a lot if you are carrying other survival gear.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:18 PM   #29063
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I'm a gunsmith, firearms trainer and USPSA A class shooter. I know I am supposed to love 1911's and hate Glocks... but I can't. I have owned over a dozen 1911's and worked on dozens of others. 1911's work "IF".... If you use GI spec ball ammo, if you make sure the springs are matched and changed every 2500 rounds, if you use Wilson mags, if you clean them regularly and lube them sparingly, if you have John Browning come out of the grave and tune the fucking extractor every 1500 rounds, if you have a firm grip, if the ejector is perfectly staked, if your support hand doesn't drag the slide or catch the slide release, if your shooting thumb doesn't bump the safety, if.....
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:26 PM   #29064
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I don't know...he might be right. I've got a 1911 and shoot it regularly and round after round I worry about all those things...then I keep shooting it and keep worrying and keep shooting and keep worrying and... I will admit, I don't limp wrist it, but then again, I don't limp wrist anything.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:39 PM   #29065
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I'm just pointing out the silly fantasy of fighting off an assualt on ones property. Two people could not defend a suburban house against a small group who knew what they were doing - one incendeary grenade and it's all over....And if you are going to run for it, how much stuff will you already be carrying and how much ammo load can you afford to carry?

I'm just saying that even 1,000 rounds of 9 MM weighs a lot if you are carrying other survival gear.
Anybody here remember the Branch Davidians in Waco, TX. Just saying.

And to keep things on topic, I LOVE my Kel-Tec KSG. it was well worth the wait. With the EOtech attached, MrsDonkeys is happy that there is a miniature 12ga to snuggle with.

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Old 03-19-2013, 08:11 PM   #29066
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Gee!

Must be something wrong with my 1911 Kimber.45. It just keeps on working! Don't even clean it that often.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:39 PM   #29067
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Must be something wrong with my 1911 Kimber.45. It just keeps on working! Don't even clean it that often.
Same with my RIA.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:51 PM   #29068
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And my Glock! It even likes Tul Ammo!
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:20 PM   #29069
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And my Glock! It even likes Tul Ammo!
Only because you lube it with synthetic products. Dino sucks. I dare anyone to say otherwise... I usually like to use Mobil 1 on my guns, my friend says 10-30, but he lives where its cold and has a high round count. I live where its hot, so I say 20-50. What say you KLR guys?
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:46 PM   #29070
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Only because you lube it with synthetic products. Dino sucks. I dare anyone to say otherwise... I usually like to use Mobil 1 on my guns, my friend says 10-30, but he lives where its cold and has a high round count. I live where its hot, so I say 20-50. What say you KLR guys?
Remoil? It just keeps going bang.
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