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Old 04-25-2010, 05:44 PM   #8476
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Old 04-25-2010, 06:29 PM   #8477
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I bet the Californication governmental people are having a shitfit today
What the fuck are you babbling on about?
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:27 PM   #8478
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The Glock strips faster. You must not know the proper technique.

Take out the magazine.
Clear the chamber, make sure it is unloaded.
Point it in a safe direction and pull the trigger.
Hold it in your strong hand while taking your fingers from the front of the grip to the top of the slide, while leaving your thumb on the back of the grip.
In this position use your strong hand to pull the slide back about 1/4 inch.
Take your weak hand and pull down on the two slide releases.
Release the slide, it will come off at this point.
Faster than what?

P9S takedown.

Place on safe, remove magazine.
Clear chamber.
Push takedown button, slide pops forward and up off of frame.
Push barrel toward forward portion of slide and remove.
Done.

No contortion required. If I knew how to do YouTube vids I'd upload one. Even so, for the price Glocks are a pretty darn good value.

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I've never fired one but supposedly the trigger action is pretty poor ... unless this little accessory is fitted and then the military ones go full auto:

The largest gripe people have is the heavy long trigger. But they were intended to be used as a PDW before the concept became popular and the heavy trigger was designed as part of the safety in addition to the push button. Very low moving parts count. Makes for a real interesting gun. ~2200 RPM in three round bursts on the VP70M.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:52 AM   #8479
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The state of California isn't too keen on anything that is cool and goes bang Austin.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:59 AM   #8480
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~2200 RPM in three round bursts on the VP70M.
Ouch...thats faster than an MG3....mags wouldnt last long would they, mind you there would not be much time for the muzzle to rise firing that fast in 3 round bursts.
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Old 04-26-2010, 08:50 AM   #8481
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Anyone own/proud of the S&W Sigma models?


Price is currently down to $350 (Before the $50 rebate) making it really tempting-

thinking CCW in a 9mm (not the smallest, but likely small enough, and like the 9mm cal foe both size/cost of ammo vs say a 380)
I personally have a hate hate relationship with them for a pistol that costs in the 400 range. If they sold it for say $250.00 or $300.00 out the door, I'd buy one and leave it in the grab bag permanantly.
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Old 04-26-2010, 09:01 AM   #8482
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I personally have a hate hate relationship with them for a pistol that costs in the 400 range.

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Old 04-26-2010, 09:03 AM   #8483
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I personally have a hate hate relationship with them for a pistol that costs in the 400 range. If they sold it for say $250.00 or $300.00 out the door, I'd buy one and leave it in the grab bag permanantly.
Kinda what I was thinking (for $300 ish), but after looking at a Ruger SR9, I may head that direction for seemingly a better fit/finish gun for not much more.
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Old 04-26-2010, 09:06 AM   #8484
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They have the worst trigger in history, it is only OK other than that, and when you look inside, it is so cheaply made, it SHOULD only cost $250.00 OTD. They shoot OK if you are a really good shooter and can Adapt and overcome the triggers long heavy gronchy pull. But for almost that cost an RIA or other cheaper knock off 1911 is FAR FAR FAR superior.
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Old 04-26-2010, 09:19 AM   #8485
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I personally have a hate hate relationship with them for a pistol that costs in the 400 range. If they sold it for say $250.00 or $300.00 out the door, I'd buy one and leave it in the grab bag permanantly.
I'm not sure I get the concept that a cheap gun with a nasty trigger would be the way-to-go as far as a gun to stick in a BOB, truck, car, etc. I mean, maybe it makes sense from the standpoint that if it gets wet or dropped or stolen it isn't a huge loss, but still....... It strikes me that we don't want a gun to get stolen regardless of how valuable it is for several reasons, and I'm thinking that if the SHTF and the zombies are roaming the streets, and I'm trying to get from work to home or wherever, I'd want one of my best guns close-at-hand, not some POS with a bad trigger.
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Old 04-26-2010, 09:22 AM   #8486
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I'm not sure I get the concept that a cheap gun with a nasty trigger would be the way-to-go as far as a gun to stick in a BOB, truck, car, etc. I mean, maybe it makes sense from the standpoint that if it gets wet or dropped or stolen it isn't a huge loss, but still....... It strikes me that we don't want a gun to get stolen regardless of how valuable it is for several reasons, and I'm thinking that if the SHTF and the zombies are roaming the streets, and I'm trying to get from work to home or wherever, I'd want one of my best guns close-at-hand, not some POS with a bad trigger.
I see your p[oint, but I ALWAYS have a couple of great guns on me. BUT this would only be if by some totally odd chance, I was caught unarmed and out somewhere that demanded A gun in a bad situ. They (the Sigma) aren't so horrid that I can't hit what a hand gun should be able to hit, but I can shoot pretty well.
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Old 04-26-2010, 09:25 AM   #8487
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Ouch...thats faster than an MG3....mags wouldnt last long would they, mind you there would not be much time for the muzzle to rise firing that fast in 3 round bursts.
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Old 04-26-2010, 09:26 AM   #8488
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Check it out all y'all AR15 lovers.

1976 AR15 SP1, A1 short handgaurds, elegant pencil barrel, birdcage, alu colapesabe stock NIB all accessories and manual are in the original box!






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Old 04-26-2010, 09:29 AM   #8489
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Well ... I took the Python to the range.

The 6 inch orange sticker is smaller than the sights @ 50 yards.

Like 1/3 of the size.

I learned the difference between .38 special and .357 magnum.

The .357 was on target every time, the .38 special drops about 8 inches @ 50 yards.
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Old 04-26-2010, 09:29 AM   #8490
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The state of California isn't too keen on anything that is cool and goes bang Austin.
Oh, I thought there was a 2nd amendment demonstration goin down or something.

Why ya gotta tease me like that?
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