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Old 10-30-2010, 07:02 PM   #11776
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I personally ALWAYS suggest a revolver in .357 mag for a person in your needs. I also can say, if you plan to get the wifee into shooting, do NOT try it with a snubbie. Even in .38spl they can be a handfull for a first time shooter woman. I would suggest a minimum of 3in and probably a 4in. But definitely a SP101 or a GP100 or even a clean used 4in Security Six, or Smith 19 or even a (38spl only) Model 10 like mine.
above advice from 10/8

Thanks, and also thanks Hardcase... I ended up going with the GP100 .357 in a 4" barrel. After trying the SP101 and multiple autos, it just felt natural in my hands. I sacrifice a little bit of CC suitability, but that wasn't really my primary goal anyhow. Plus it gives me a reason to go buy the SP101, or the...


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Old 10-31-2010, 10:03 AM   #11777
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So that $329 Single Six finally got sold before payday, oh well. When I was at Scheel's tonight they had a 2-tone Sig Mosquito for $329 used but LNIB. Doesn't seem like it's a smoking deal but it doesn't look as goofy as the P22, is reasonably priced, fits me pretty damn well, and looks like a "real handgun" (note that I said I didn't need that a week ago ). Anybody know anything about these? I've had a few offhand recommendations for it when I have told people I want a .22 pistol but I just figured that was because it looked cool.

sub-$300 will buy you a new ruger mark 3, a used ruger mark 2 or a used buckmark (among other things), which i would much rather have than a mosquito or single six or p22 (yeah, i have shot them so this is a semi-informed opinion).

i have a mark 2 that is a great shooter but it has fixed sights and i was not super accurate with it. i had thoughts of putting a tactical solutions barrel on it and making it a "hot-rod" but i was able to find an almost new buckmark with adjustable sights and heavy barrel for $299 (i had been looking for over a year and this was the first used buckmark i found). the buckmark makes me look like a GREAT marksman - it fits me like a glove and i couldn't be happier with it.

looking at the buckmark vs. the ruger side by side, the buckmark is much more impressive. the ruger is stamped steel (reminds me of an ak), kind of crude but it does work well. the browning is nicely machined and the quality seems quite high, i have had zero feeding issues and the fit (for me) is second to none.

i have a few rifles and pistols in all the favorite calibers and i shoot a couple of times a month but the 2 guns that get the MOST use, and get shot every time i go out, are the buckmark and my 10-22.

the only gun (.22) that i would consider replacing my buckmark with would be a s&w 41 but i just can't imagine that it be that big of an improvement.

i have also heard some nice things about the beretta neos, though i have never fired one.
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:10 AM   #11778
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I've got a Buckmark with the 7.5" heavy fluted barrel, and an S&W 41. Both are accurate and fun to shoot. The Buckmark has a 42mm red dot on it and is a great rat gun, the 41 is iron sights only.
FWIW, the Browning 'feels' better. Also, I had to drift the rear sight on the S&w way left and deepen the notch considerably to get it aligned with POI. They're both good, I think the Browning is a little better.
They're both threaded and even more fun to shoot suppressed.

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Old 10-31-2010, 06:50 PM   #11779
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Dammit.



Alright.


Cabelas has P22s for $330 and PK380s for $350.




P22:

Only shot one once, but I did put 20-30 mags through it when I did.

I really like the way it shoots and how it feels in my hand and I can shoot it all afternoon for $20.

Rates pretty low on the defense scale even with expensive .22 hollow points.




PK380:

Only $20 more expensive, very similar build (designed specifically to be middle ground between the P22 and P99).

More expensive to shoot and people seem to have issue with the "decocking" method.

Much better defensive weapon.







My intention behind this future purchase is fun plinker first and defense second.





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Old 10-31-2010, 07:08 PM   #11780
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Dammit.

Alright.
Cabelas has P22s for $330 and PK380s for $350.

P22:

Only shot one once, but I did put 20-30 mags through it when I did.

I really like the way it shoots and how it feels in my hand and I can shoot it all afternoon for $20.

Rates pretty low on the defense scale even with expensive .22 hollow points.

PK380:

Only $20 more expensive, very similar build (designed specifically to be middle ground between the P22 and P99).

More expensive to shoot and people seem to have issue with the "decocking" method.
Much better defensive weapon.

My intention behind this future purchase is fun plinker first and defense second.
I got both in one box with matching #s.
I am not really a "collector" type, But I wanted that pair.
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Old 10-31-2010, 07:12 PM   #11781
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I got both in one box with matching #s.
I am not really a "collector" type, But I wanted that pair.
Yeah, it's tempting, but it'll be expensive enough just to get one right now.

One won't break the bank for me at all, but I just don't feel comfortable buying both at the same time.





Wait, wouldn't matching numbers on two different fire arms be a bad thing?
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:44 PM   #11782
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Yeah, it's tempting, but it'll be expensive enough just to get one right now.

One won't break the bank for me at all, but I just don't feel comfortable buying both at the same time.





Wait, wouldn't matching numbers on two different fire arms be a bad thing?
one has a letter inserted
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:44 PM   #11783
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one has a letter inserted
Ah.
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:51 PM   #11784
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Thanks for the info. The reason I ask is that I have been contemplating a motorcycle trip to Alaska from the Lower 48 at some point in the next couple of years, and have a Marlin Guide Gun in 45/70 that I would like to take along. It has a fairly short barrel, I'm thinking just a little over 16". I'll have to check the OAL, although I'm pretty sure it's well over 26", and I'll also do some much more detailed checking and research on the topic before I actually load up and hit the road.
I just looked on Canuckistan's website a few weeks ago. I think it has to be 18.5" for Canada. They actually have a pretty easy to navigate site. I googled "rifle barrel length Canada" and it took about two or three clicks to get to the right document.

Here is a National Firearms Association link. I'll let you parse it yourself.

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NOTE: The firearm is NOT forced into the "prohibited firearm" class if it left the factory with the barrel at below-18"/457mm barrel length. I have, for example, a .22 rimfire semi-auto 30-shot rifle with a 9-3/4" barrel, a .410 single-shot shotgun with an 11-3/4" barrel, two 12-gauge pump-action shotguns with 14" barrels, a .22 rimfire pump-action rifle with a 17-7/8" custom barrel and a .223 calibre rifle with a 14" barrel -- AND ALL OF THEM ARE NON-RESTRICTED. THAT IS BECAUSE THEY EITHER LEFT THE FACTORY WITH THOSE BARRELS, OR WERE FITTED WITH FACTORY- OR CUSTOM-MADE BARRELS IN THOSE LENGTHS AT SOME LATER DATE, and were NEVER fitted with a longer barrel. One left the factory with NO barrel, and so a 14" barrel could be legally fitted.

My assembly of that collection of idiocy demonstrations was deliberate. The law apparently tried to prohibit certain lengths of barrel or firearm -- and failed miserably, because the limits are all conditional. Assembling the necessary parts to change one of your firearms into one of my above-noted configurations is something you can do as a hobby. It is a risky hobby. You may be forced to defend the legality of what you have, or have done, in a court of law -- at heavy expense -- because some police officer does NOT understand all the above technicalities. You may even be convicted -- because some JUDGE does not understand firearms law. Did YOU understand it before reading ALL of this posting? Are you SURE you understand the limits NOW?

It is IMPORTANT to understand what you can and cannot do.
That link makes it sound like less than 18.5 may be legal as long as it isn't semi or full auto.... but I'm not sure I'd want to have to have the discussion at the Border with a Border Gaurd who may or may not know the nuances of the law. 18.5 and your clearly set.
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:56 PM   #11785
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I just looked on Canuckistan's website a few weeks ago. I think it has to be 18.5" for Canada.

Jesus man... That is incorrect. We exhuastively went over that and quoted the relevent sections of the criminal code for it. Have a look at the posts following his. As long as it's non semi auto, and the overall length is over 26" the barrel length is irrelevent if it's manufactured that way. Can't saw off under 18", becomes prohibited. Barrels on semi auto center fires with a barrel length less than 18.5" are treated the same as handguns.
And you certainly won't want to show up at all without the appropriate paperwork, just like we have to if we want to cross into the US with a firearm. Don't dare just show up or you're in for a world of hurt.
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:16 PM   #11786
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Jesus man... That is incorrect. We exhuastively went over that and quoted the relevent sections of the criminal code for it. Have a look at the posts following his. As long as it's non semi auto, and the overall length is over 26" the barrel length is irrelevent if it's manufactured that way. Can't saw off under 18", becomes prohibited. Barrels on semi auto center fires with a barrel length less than 18.5" are treated the same as handguns.
And you certainly won't want to show up at all without the appropriate paperwork, just like we have to if we want to cross into the US with a firearm. Don't dare just show up or you're in for a world of hurt.

Apologies, that's what I get for coming in late.
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:26 PM   #11787
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:37 PM   #11788
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:49 PM   #11789
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:53 PM   #11790
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Is that a Browning High Power?


It is a High Power, I assume Browning.
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