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Old 11-14-2010, 12:42 AM   #12091
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that looks like a 96 Mauser(if thats a Winny its old)....thumb cut out stepped barrel....its not a Zastava is it
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Old 11-14-2010, 05:07 AM   #12092
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Is that a Winchester? It looks very similar to a Swedish Mauser (1896 IIRC) that I refurbed. I'll post some pics later this morning. It's a fun shooter, but I can't find very much about it.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:41 AM   #12093
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I know that several different companies have manufactured the M-1 carbine over the years. Anyone know if one is better than the other? Is there a manufacturer I should avoid?

The guns I saw were in the $550-$600 range. They weren't pristine, but seemed very serviceable. Sound about right?
Stay away from anything from Universal, they are crap. Most of the parts are not Mil-Spec so if you ever need anything you will need to find a donor or Universal specific parts. Beyond that you are generally good to go with any other manufacturer as they were made such that all parts could be interchanged in the field regardless of maker.

Nearly 99% of all M1 Carbines you find will be rebuilds (sometimes 2x, 3x, 4x +) and not 100% original no matter what the sellers says! Remember these things saw service around the globe for close to five decades, then much of the surplus was sold off to civilians for sporting use so. Many 'collectors' look for carbines where all the parts come from the same maker while others dont care and are fine with mix-masters, both will generally function fine no matter the mix.

Prices are all over the map depending on condition, manufacturer, and rarity. From ~$300 for a well loved truck-gun to ~$2000 for a non-import/non-rebuild A+ Rockola or IBM. A range of $500-$600 should get you a very nice shooter in good condition, if you hunt around on local gun boards or pawn-shops you can sometimes find deals/steals. Six-months ago I found a 100% Rockola that rated 'very-good' for $600, I recently sold it for $1150. I also just picked up an Iver Johnson Paratrooper for $400 and am awaiting delivery of my third M1 pistol I stole for $300 (yes even M1 Carbine pistols were made), both should fetch ~$800.

Also keep in mind that there are plenty of M1 Carbine haters out there who majorly understate the performance of 30 Carbine, they are basically clueless. The M1 Carbine was designed for CQB before CQB was 'cool', with a 300 yard effective range but really shining between 0-200 yards. In this window ammunition can deliver ballistics far exceeding that of 44 Magnum and 357 Magnum pistols at their respective muzzels. Lightweight, low reoil, 10/15/20/30 round mags, quick reloading stripper-clips, easy to maintain, tough as nails, Carbines rock!



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Old 11-14-2010, 10:19 AM   #12094
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Thanks D-FENS,

That's some good info.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:31 AM   #12095
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'Bout time you got here. What took you so long?

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I hadn't thought that such a rider website would have such a great gun section!
Especially after visiting the political section

There are some very interesting firearms in here!
Things I've never seen or heard of.
Now, if I start a gun collecting hobby I can blame it on my motorcycle hobby!
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:34 AM   #12096
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Kel-Tec PF9 with Armalaser

My conceal carry piece

I had it coated in Cerakote by a guy up here.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:58 AM   #12097
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that looks like a 96 Mauser(if thats a Winny its old)....thumb cut out stepped barrel....its not a Zastava is it
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Is that a Winchester? It looks very similar to a Swedish Mauser (1896 IIRC) that I refurbed. I'll post some pics later this morning. It's a fun shooter, but I can't find very much about it.


Yup. Husqvarna mauser in 6.5 x 55. Mfg'rd in '43. Somebody put some serious effort into turning it into a fine sporting piece. It's a straight shooter, too.

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Old 11-14-2010, 11:08 AM   #12098
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Thanks D-FENS,

That's some good info.
See, I told you so.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:14 AM   #12099
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Stay away from anything from Universal, they are crap. Most of the parts are not Mil-Spec so if you ever need anything you will need to find a donor or Universal specific parts. Beyond that you are generally good to go with any other manufacturer as they were made such that all parts could be interchanged in the field regardless of maker.

Nearly 99% of all M1 Carbines you find will be rebuilds (sometimes 2x, 3x, 4x +) and not 100% original no matter what the sellers says! Remember these things saw service around the globe for close to five decades, then much of the surplus was sold off to civilians for sporting use so. Many 'collectors' look for carbines where all the parts come from the same maker while others dont care and are fine with mix-masters, both will generally function fine no matter the mix.

Prices are all over the map depending on condition, manufacturer, and rarity. From ~$300 for a well loved truck-gun to ~$2000 for a non-import/non-rebuild A+ Rockola or IBM. A range of $500-$600 should get you a very nice shooter in good condition, if you hunt around on local gun boards or pawn-shops you can sometimes find deals/steals. Six-months ago I found a 100% Rockola that rated 'very-good' for $600, I recently sold it for $1150. I also just picked up an Iver Johnson Paratrooper for $400 and am awaiting delivery of my third M1 pistol I stole for $300 (yes even M1 Carbine pistols were made), both should fetch ~$800.

Also keep in mind that there are plenty of M1 Carbine haters out there who majorly understate the performance of 30 Carbine, they are basically clueless. The M1 Carbine was designed for CQB before CQB was 'cool', with a 300 yard effective range but really shining between 0-200 yards. In this window ammunition can deliver ballistics far exceeding that of 44 Magnum and 357 Magnum pistols at their respective muzzels. Lightweight, low reoil, 10/15/20/30 round mags, quick reloading stripper-clips, easy to maintain, tough as nails, Carbines rock!



One of the local fellas where I work up north of here that comes by with beer and bear burgers from time to time stopped by and saw a couple of my guns. He's a big time hunter, so we started talking guns. Was showing him pics of some of me stuff on the computer, he was really keen on the Savage 24 20ga/.22lr I have. Wanted to know if I wanted to sell it. I'm not too keen as they're hard to come by. Told him I like the old military stuff and he said he bought an armload of guns off an old timer and there's an "army " gun in there but doesn't know what it is and wants to get rid of it. Was expecting a bubba'd enfield. It turned out to be this:


Reasonably unmolested Inland Motor Division (General Motors) M1 Carbine with the original 1944 barrel.
YOINK!
The Savage 24c is all his!


Shitty thing is, it's restricted because of barrel length. I'm in the market for an 18.5" barrel, but they're hard to come by.
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Old 11-14-2010, 12:48 PM   #12100
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See, I told you so.

My wife is going to kill me. Maybe I'll just explain to her (again) that I'm only one gun away from being happy with my collection.

A few other I had to have:

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Old 11-14-2010, 01:07 PM   #12101
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Hey Smith and Wesson nerds,

I went to Scheels today to get some ammoe and of course had to snoop around a little. After my Taurus incident, I'm pretty much set on a S&W, specifically the 617. However, at a little over $700, I am also shopping around for good deals

In the case they just got a S&W K17. It has a little wear in the blueing near the muzzle but otherwise looks like a well-loved (but used) pistol. The guy said that from the ridge over the barrel that it was from the '60s, and with the transfer-bar safety that it was most likely the late 1960s. It also has the target hammer and trigger and the salesmen seemed pretty enamored with it. Their price is $420.

I doubt it will last until my next paycheck, but is this gun a good deal, or is it worth saving another $300 for stainless steel, full underlug, 4 more shots, and being new?
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Old 11-14-2010, 01:46 PM   #12102
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Yup. Husqvarna mauser in 6.5 x 55. Mfg'rd in '43. Somebody put some serious effort into turning it into a fine sporting piece. It's a straight shooter, too.

Husky did some factory build sporter's it might even be one.......just about all of the 96's i've had were ex-mil I use to love my AG-42 but we are not trusted with them now
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Old 11-14-2010, 02:05 PM   #12103
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Four of my chunks...

My tried and true Valtro .45


My old work horse PPC gun...


S&W Airweight... 'HAve an ankle holster for it, but I don't own any bell-bottom pants.


Ex police service revolver... Bought 25yrs ago for $100
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Old 11-14-2010, 02:07 PM   #12104
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Hey Smith and Wesson nerds,

I went to Scheels today to get some ammoe and of course had to snoop around a little. After my Taurus incident, I'm pretty much set on a S&W, specifically the 617. However, at a little over $700, I am also shopping around for good deals

In the case they just got a S&W K17. It has a little wear in the blueing near the muzzle but otherwise looks like a well-loved (but used) pistol. The guy said that from the ridge over the barrel that it was from the '60s, and with the transfer-bar safety that it was most likely the late 1960s. It also has the target hammer and trigger and the salesmen seemed pretty enamored with it. Their price is $420.

I doubt it will last until my next paycheck, but is this gun a good deal, or is it worth saving another $300 for stainless steel, full underlug, 4 more shots, and being new?
If the 17 is in good working order that's not a bad price. With that style barrel it could have been produced anytime between 1957 and 1989, but the -number would help pin it down more. Is it a -3, a -4, or what? Is it a 4"? I think that's the best all-around barrel length for a .22 revolver, although the 6" is nice too. There's a 6" used 617 at a nearby shop that I saw yesterday, it looked good although I didn't pick it up and examine it. They were asking $560.
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Old 11-14-2010, 03:45 PM   #12105
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If the 17 is in good working order that's not a bad price. With that style barrel it could have been produced anytime between 1957 and 1989, but the -number would help pin it down more. Is it a -3, a -4, or what? Is it a 4"? I think that's the best all-around barrel length for a .22 revolver, although the 6" is nice too. There's a 6" used 617 at a nearby shop that I saw yesterday, it looked good although I didn't pick it up and examine it. They were asking $560.
Oh yeah... When I asked the guy how old it was he had me check the number. I believe it was 17-3. 6" barrel.

I would give my left nut to find a 617 for $560. I'd probably take out a loan from the girlfriend or my dad
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