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Old 03-04-2013, 11:08 AM   #16291
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I'd probably stick with a 35W. Sure you aren't getting as many lumens, but you get much better longevity and reliability. Most (DDM included) bulbs are not rated for more than 35W. So you're basically asking the bulb for more with reduction in reliability and longevity. Philips does has have a true 55W bulb, but I believe it's around 110 USD for the bulb itself.

Still, for 30$ USD you are getting 4200 lumens. That LED is about 900-1200 I think..

The HID is ~35 W draw (varies), and the the LED is 10W.

Now to compare that to a car that has 8400 WELL FOCUSED and efficient lumens compared to two 1200 lumen LED's where nearly half the light is being spent lighting up the moon, you can understand my agrument of quality vehicle light to half assed LED light.

I also had the pleasure to ride my buddies WR450 with the Baja Designs Squadron light and unknowingly to him, I was very dissapointed, especially considering the cost. ($375 USD). The light was good, but nowhere near great and still had poor spread and distance. It also doesn't work for street use as the dimmer doesn't change beam pattern, but just brightness (varies voltage). To top it off, BOTH my buddies damaged their dimmers after two rides in Baja. Brutal!

I can't believe Baja Designs puts their name on that crap. My buddy said "what can you expect for 50$ dimmer". He's the type of guy that pays for stuff without cost considerations because 50$ is a lot for a part that breaks within hours of use AND was designed by a so called "elite US manufactured offroad company" who is loosing their shirt to the Chinese equivalent for 1/5th the cost. After all, it's a friggen simple device they still couldn't get right.

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Old 03-04-2013, 11:23 AM   #16292
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Shibby,

have you seen the light of the Vison X's? They can't be compared to very similar units I've seen, but yeah, they cost more too.
I ask because I've seen those led-bars, and sure, they're bright but scatter light anywhere as you say.
Not so the Vision X's, available in 3 lens types. I got 1 on my 230 (medium Lens) and this is, for the lowish speed, more than enough, and the std filament light disappears completely in the beam. Yes, it blinds cars but it's aimed & used as 'bright', but bright it most certainly is. My pig will have two, switched as additional lights, a spot & medium beam, and I've seen what this is - no need for more thank you. Oh, no, I'm no racer, I can understand them needing all they can muster.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:49 AM   #16293
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Shibby,

have you seen the light of the Vison X's? They can't be compared to very similar units I've seen, but yeah, they cost more too.
I ask because I've seen those led-bars, and sure, they're bright but scatter light anywhere as you say.
Not so the Vision X's, available in 3 lens types. I got 1 on my 230 (medium Lens) and this is, for the lowish speed, more than enough, and the std filament light disappears completely in the beam. Yes, it blinds cars but it's aimed & used as 'bright', but bright it most certainly is. My pig will have two, switched as additional lights, a spot & medium beam, and I've seen what this is - no need for more thank you. Oh, no, I'm no racer, I can understand them needing all they can muster.

Yup,

My buddies old WR has two Vision X's, and the Squadron on the other WR has (4) 10W LED's. CREE 10W are the brightest you can get at the moment.

I'd use them for dirt biking no problem, but racing down dark, unfamiliar trails and roads at 100KM/hr at night? I'd start to be hesitant.

As mentioned, my dirt bike (I hope to buy next week) will bet getting two 10 W CREE led lights. One flood, one spot. Sure as hell won't be Baja Designs though.

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Old 03-04-2013, 11:57 AM   #16294
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I'd probably stick with a 35W. Sure you aren't getting as many lumens, but you get much better longevity and reliability. Most (DDM included) bulbs are not rated for more than 35W.
/rant =)

Nah, go 55w. I haven't lost a bulb yet after a couple years (four units in use currently). Ballasts on the other hand, I have lost a a few of those. Mostly due to some other electrical failure or design error on my part or just plane old abuse (like trying to drive them with 16v).
I have a whole box of bulbs now, all 3000k. So if you want one....

And yeh, Baja Designs is not on my shopping list, now or ever. They haven't produced anything that makes me excited, and most of it I can put together myself for half the cost.


Supposedly, Rigid is building a light bar for Dave Pearson's bike (THR motorsports), but he has yet to run it and was still using the HID/Hologen combo that I still prefer (as if I am in the same league). So when I see Dave and other racers going with LED for primary lights, I will consider their enormous price tag.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:55 PM   #16295
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any thoughts on the LED style off-road lights sold in either wide or narrow configurations off of ebay? do those HID kits just plug and play into the H4 bulb slot? that is pretty inexpensive for the lumens, i think. havn't done too much research on lighting options yet
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:05 PM   #16296
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any thoughts on the LED style off-road lights sold in either wide or narrow configurations off of ebay? do those HID kits just plug and play into the H4 bulb slot? that is pretty inexpensive for the lumens, i think. havn't done too much research on lighting options yet

Careful, lumen ratings are like any other rating and subject to subjectivity.

Yes, the HID are plug and play if you order the bulb type you are replacing. However, your electrical needs to be DC and have a battery. 55W is no problem to be running through the handlebar switch, FYI.
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:17 PM   #16297
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Careful, lumen ratings are like any other rating and subject to subjectivity.

Yes, the HID are plug and play if you order the bulb type you are replacing. However, your electrical needs to be DC and have a battery. 55W is no problem to be running through the handlebar switch, FYI.
Thanks crypto, i'm rebuilding my bike this year and am still gathering ideas.
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:36 PM   #16298
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I had a cheap set up on my bike for a few night rides. it's a rigid industries 1900 lumens led flood. as you can see, it's much brighter than the OEM high beam below it. OEM led. Cost was $50
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:12 PM   #16299
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Cheap LED set-up above

WOW. Did you run that on the OE stator?
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:46 PM   #16300
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Yes, but the 610 has a stator that can run a good bit, however that light only uses 27 watts.
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:49 PM   #16301
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I don't want to catch flak for posting on the R thread and being a husqy guy, but I saw the talk about lights and though you guys might like this one. It worked well and is a solid unit for $50 or even less delivered.
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:28 PM   #16302
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Who's going to listen to a husky rider
Haha got a link for that light
sent while swerving all over the rd in my car......tapatalk pro
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:12 PM   #16303
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This is all I can find looks like the Ridgid industries isn't selling these any more. I got mine last year, but these seem to be the same thing.
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:19 PM   #16304
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Look at this on eBay:

1pcs 27W watt LED Work Light Lamp Truck Like Rigid Polaris Jeep ATV UTV Tractor

http://bit.ly/13CUqY0

Last year these said ridgid industries and now they say "like" ridgid industries.
Looks like the same one I got and at over 2000 lumens in water proof case for the money it's a good deal, but hey, what's a Husqy guy know anyway? Lol.

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Old 03-04-2013, 05:26 PM   #16305
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What's this world coming to when we allow HUSKY guys in our thread...

Also check out the toyota and many other forums for 10-20% off lights with group buy for chinese LED. You could get one for cheaper than 60$ for sure.

toyota-4runner.org
Toyotanation
I8Mudd.com
tacomaworld, etc.

They have big group buys going on one after another pretty much. The guy doing it can be trusted and saves you a few bucks to sign up to the forum.

Thankfully LED is coming down in price. The huge benefits are instant on, low power consumption with a reasonably good (great compared to halogen) output. Another big benefit is they are pretty damn durable. Great for motorcycle use.
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