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Old 03-08-2013, 12:15 PM   #16381
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You might want to loc-tite your kick start lever too. The bolt on mine started to work its way out one day on the way to work. Fortunately, I didn't lose it!

Add to that foot pegs and subframe bolts, perhaps the kick stand too.

Snowing again? God Damn it! Its the weekend.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:46 PM   #16382
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maybe you should... every answer to the questions on this bike is in this thread
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:57 PM   #16383
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You might want to loc-tite your kick start lever too. The bolt on mine started to work its way out one day on the way to work. Fortunately, I didn't lose it!

Yup!

I was going around snugging up bolts on mine and noticed my kickstarter bolt was loose too. Good way to flush $130 down the crapper. Dont loose that guy.
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:06 PM   #16384
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Did you go out Echo Canyon?

Are you using locking washers on the bolts that you're losing? I would think the loctite would hold them. And yes, I love those Mojavi Bags.
Yes, I'm not familiar with the region, but we started the morning at Tacoma Hot Sprints, rode gravel roads to Furnace Creek (to gas up) then rode through Echo Canyon, eventually reaching the dunes in the photo. It was fantastic. Our group of 8 riders had the entire dunes to ourselves. Not even a tire track in sight when we got there. We eventually rode through Stovepipe Wells on our way to our final destination for the night - Panamint Springs. And yes, the Mojavi bags are helpfull - the extra 4L of fuel was almost (but not quite) enough, even with my 4.6 gal IMS tank.



And as for loctite -- I've learned to check my kick starter daily -- even with loctite. The small M6 bolt under the fender (end of the sub-frame) may have had a lock washer originally, but I lost that one and can't be sure. I managed to add a replacement bolt (with loctite, but no lock washer) in the parking lot of "Bikini's" Brothel outside of Beatty, NV. And the bike promptly spit that one out.

Thanks for the heads up on the kickstand bolt - haven't checked that one yet. My XR600R is a tractor much like this XR650R - but with a steel frame. I just don't remember losing bolts at the same rate as this XR650R does.
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:25 PM   #16385
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what do you guys think of this wrist pin and rod small end?





wrist pin will be replaced anyhow with new wiseco stuff, but how bout the rod? doable??
i really would like to hear good things if at all possible. ha
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:32 PM   #16386
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what do you guys think of this wrist pin and rod small end?





wrist pin will be replaced anyhow with new wiseco stuff, but how bout the rod? doable??
i really would like to hear good things if at all possible. ha
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:39 PM   #16387
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all new
not what i wanted to hear, not at all.
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:44 PM   #16388
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not what i wanted to hear, not at all.
I hear ya , kinda like seeing a letter from the IRS

there could be more garbage down below
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:23 PM   #16389
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I have carried 40-50lbs on my rack without any mods to the subframe, and no issues. Upgraded all related to fasteners to the highest grade I could get a hold of. Just don't be a jackass and act like a superstar racer with your luggage on. And carry an extra long bolt, maybe even find a longer one.

My replacing of a crank case side resulted in a complete rebuild too; also needed the c-rod.
Thanks. Bad intake valves turns into a look at the small end of the C-rod which turns into a look between the cases which leads to many new internal parts. Mostly because I don't want have split the cases again.

They still make the XR650R. You just have to buy it one piece at a time.



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Old 03-08-2013, 04:29 PM   #16390
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Muffler for sale in the flea, don't know if this against the rules but here it is. This is probably the most free flowing muffler you could ever find.

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Old 03-08-2013, 04:56 PM   #16391
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what do you guys think of this wrist pin and rod small end?
That's what mine looked like when the big end bearing went. That's definitely "done." You may find that the crank is buggered up from whatever toasted the small end.

What did your oil look like when you drained it?

If someone else drained it before you got to it then you need to check everything. Screens, oil pump, etc.
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:17 PM   #16392
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Thanks. Bad intake valves turns into a look at the small end of the C-rod which turns into a look between the cases which leads to many new internal parts. Mostly because I don't want have split the cases again.

They still make the XR650R. You just have to buy it one piece at a time.



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Looks like you and I are in similar positions here. damn

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That's what mine looked like when the big end bearing went. That's definitely "done." You may find that the crank is buggered up from whatever toasted the small end.

What did your oil look like when you drained it?

If someone else drained it before you got to it then you need to check everything. Screens, oil pump, etc.
the oil was black when i drained it. i rode it all summer long mostly. it burned a quart of oil every 100 miles about. I have a build thread in my signature with more background. case screen was cleaned out last spring with minimal metal fragments, and downtube screen checked every oil change. i think it ran low on oil at some point without my knowing. guess i needed to pay better attention. well i guess after this mess i'll probably be installing the oil sight tube mod.

any recommendations on C-rods? i'm basically stock except for normal uncork, hotcams S1, and TM40. i don't think i will be able to afford a $400 crank. what are some other options that are decent or OEM like?
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:56 PM   #16393
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I am finally going to put on the new right crankcase cover tomorrow. Does anybody know what is used to seal the plugs that go into it? I know two of them are red loctite, (off the old warped one) but the others are a sealant/thread locker that is dark grey. Should I just use red loctite on them all?
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:23 PM   #16394
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Well after a long sabbatical to SE Asia Im back, just before I left last June I blew up the lower rod bearing and crankcase at 70mph on the freeway, thank god I was quick on the clutch cause she locked up tighter than a nuns asshole. .. Now its rebuild time.



Got a new (used in great shape) case and have all the bearings pulled out, steam cleaned and sparkling, just sent out the crank for a press and balance with new rod, re nikasil the cylinder, hard face weld the rockers, and a valve job replacing everything. Also throwing in a hot cams stage 1 and cutting out the rear side panel so she'll breathe better



One question Ive got after cleaning and inspecting the oil pump today is should I be worried about the pump if both sides are at their service limits? I plan on replacing the parts after the build up but am I going to see any significant loss in pressure for cam break in, some short runs, etc, the service limit is .008 and its a real snug fit?

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Old 03-08-2013, 07:38 PM   #16395
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should I be worried about the pump if both sides are at their service limits?
I would replace it before you fire it up. It's not the place to save money on.
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