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Old 05-26-2013, 03:52 PM   #17101
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How did it run first part of the trip? I understand DV is a bit lower but if it was jetted right when you left home I'd be surprised of it needs changed. I've run the 650R over a 7K' alt change in one trip and while it wasn't ideal the jetting was ok with that range. Have you been following someone who's putin out allot of dust? I have seen that effect the running.
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Old 05-26-2013, 08:55 PM   #17102
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Sounds super fat and a fouled plug. Drop the needle...edit, just read again, second from the top is how you're compensating for the huge main...leave the needle where it's at, 165 main, new plug and make sure the jam nut on the emulsifier tube is tight with the tube fully seated.
She's got the panel cut out of the airbox cover, an aftermarket pipe/headers, and (if we are to believe the original owner) bored out. Jets probably still too big, but maybe not as oversized as it sounds. I need to replace some bolts so ill take another look and probably swap down to 175.

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Old 05-26-2013, 09:09 PM   #17103
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She's got the panel cut out of the airbox cover, an aftermarket pipe/headers, and (if we are to believe the original owner) bored out. Jets probably still too big, but maybe not as oversized as it sounds. I need to replace some bolts so ill take another look and probably swap down to 175.

Thanks for the input! Esp the emulsifier.

That oughta be enough engine mods to warrant the big main, definitely swap the plug and see what happens.
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Old 05-26-2013, 09:21 PM   #17104
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yep, now make a parts list and grab your cc and call me.
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Old 05-27-2013, 08:30 AM   #17105
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How did it run first part of the trip? I understand DV is a bit lower but if it was jetted right when you left home I'd be surprised of it needs changed. I've run the 650R over a 7K' alt change in one trip and while it wasn't ideal the jetting was ok with that range. Have you been following someone who's putin out allot of dust? I have seen that effect the running.
Good logic. She was running fine on hwy 1 in norcal with this jetting. Wasn't following any roost or dust, my riding buddy wad on a touring bike, so I didn't see much dirt, and when I did it was just me.
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:03 PM   #17106
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:20 PM   #17107
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Putting on my new chain today, it's a renthal with a rivet master link. I was expecting a clip, I've never done a rivet style before. How exactly does one install this thing? Guess I need to buy some sort of rivet tool? Sorry for the dumb question. I've always used clip links

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Old 05-27-2013, 02:48 PM   #17108
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Putting on my new chain today, it's a renthal with a rivet master link. I was expecting a clip, I've never done a rivet style before. How exactly does one install this thing? Guess I need to buy some sort of rivet tool? Sorry for the dumb question. I've always used clip links

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You need to get a chain tool that can break your chain, install the new link (its a tight press fit), and then peen over the end of the master link. Dont over do it on peening over the end with the tool, it should be snug but not overly tight to make the chain bind.
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:03 PM   #17109
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You need to get a chain tool that can break your chain, install the new link (its a tight press fit), and then peen over the end of the master link. Dont over do it on peening over the end with the tool, it should be snug but not overly tight to make the chain bind.
I just did a quick Google search, is that really an over $100 tool? The chain I have uses the soft nose rivets, not hollow. Can I just buy a clip master link and call it good?

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Old 05-27-2013, 08:46 PM   #17110
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I just did a quick Google search, is that really an over $100 tool? The chain I have uses the soft nose rivets, not hollow. Can I just buy a clip master link and call it good?

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Yes, many people do.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:51 PM   #17111
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I just did a quick Google search, is that really an over $100 tool? The chain I have uses the soft nose rivets, not hollow. Can I just buy a clip master link and call it good?

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Old 05-28-2013, 02:04 AM   #17112
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Can I just buy a clip master link and call it good?
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Yes, many people do.
Depends who you ask, I say No.
A riveted/swaged masterlink is best & safest, can't come loose.
A clip-type can come loose and does sometimes. Add bad luck and your cases will be ruined.

You likely will need a tool to break the chain to the correct length, and yes, with other tools this can be done also, however never as neat. And, the same tool allows you to swage ('rivet') the link's pins in a neat way - which you also can do with dual hammers, a punch and some help, but again never as neat.

So, I suppose it depends on how neat a chap you are
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:12 AM   #17113
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I'm also in the "no" camp.

I know too many people who have lost a clip, even with silicone over the top. The consequences of failure are just too high. I bought an FZR400 recently and just found that the clip is missing. I'll be replacing it with a rivet style as soon as the link gets here.

I think that the undisputed king of chain tools is the DID KM500. It's in the ballpark of $150 depending on where you shop. They make a "sport" version that is called the KM501E that is 90% as good for half the money. It is the exact same design just not as heavy of steel. The KM500 is billed as "shop grade" where the KM501 is "consumer grade." Either will likely last you a lifetime.

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Old 05-28-2013, 06:11 AM   #17114
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GS'es are good too, tho...

That one says 'not for use on renthal rs3-2 chain', which happens to be the chain I bought.

Something special about that chain I'm missing?

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Old 05-28-2013, 06:36 AM   #17115
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I think that the undisputed king of chain tools is the DID KM500 ..... will likely last you a lifetime.
I agree, it's what I got.
Mind though, misalignment (twit-operator ) may shatter the pin so I bought a spare, just so my 'lifetime' is ensured.
It is a heavy tool but I never take it on trips, zero need for it with a good chain - which for me is a DID, also superior in my books.
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