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Old 08-01-2013, 11:15 PM   #17716
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I guess I should elaborate...no headshake on pavement or nicely packed dirt roads, but when there's loose stuff forming grooves from 4 wheel traffic it can get pretty bad. I'll definitely start playing with the suspension a bit and see if I can work it out.


Any recommendations on bar bends? I see a lot of people going with CR High, but not much detail regarding these rider's height.
Also check if your forks are slid down in the triple clamps, which steepens the head angle (twitchier). If the front is sprung too soft vs the rear it can have the same effect. Too tight a (hand) grip on the bars can amplify the effects in loose stuff too.

I like to find a comfortable bar then move it around with (Rox) risers. Try a few on other people's bikes, or buy used to resell if/when you guess wrong. I'm super tall so no help there for your size. Risers are something to think about with top vs under mount dampers.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:46 AM   #17717
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I swapped out my clutch for aftermarket steels and fibers. A while late I started to get the clutch noise/howl at idle that disappears when you pull in the clutch. The pressure plate bearing appears to be fine, the steels and fibers still appear new. I cant figure out what would be causing the noise. Also I was playing with the basket and noticed a little play/wiggle/wobble to it is this normal?

what year is your bike Tanner? if its one of the first two years it could be the older style clutch bushing?
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:41 AM   #17718
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On the clutch noise, I assume the fibers were presoaked in oil? Sorry, I don't know about the movement.

Yeah everything was soaked in new oil, about a week before I could get around to installing it.

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what year is your bike tanner? If its one of the first two years it could be the older style clutch bushing?

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Old 08-02-2013, 07:51 AM   #17719
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http://www.partzilla.com/parts/searc...TCH/parts.html

if you look at this diagram, it looks like the only thing that would allow the basket to wiggle like that would be the clutch bushing.
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:57 AM   #17720
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http://www.partzilla.com/parts/searc...TCH/parts.html

if you look at this diagram, it looks like the only thing that would allow the basket to wiggle like that would be the clutch bushing.

Thats what I thought, bad bushing. I ran into a post some where that said there is supposed to be a bit of play in the basket.
I figured I would check here before unstaking and ordering a bushing.
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:20 AM   #17721
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Thats what I thought, bad bushing. I ran into a post some where that said there is supposed to be a bit of play in the basket.
I figured I would check here before unstaking and ordering a bushing.


The howl is because the inner and outer basket fingers are hammered...like done, junk. See all those neat little indentations where the clutch fingers engage the basket fingers? Yeah, they're not supposed to be there.

Get a Hinson outer basket and a new Honda inner hub. If money is tight you can file/sand the ridges out and get some more life out of it.

The in/out basket play is normal, but a new bushing won't hurt.
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:23 AM   #17722
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Also I was playing with the basket and noticed a little play/wiggle/wobble to it is this normal?
I don't think so, hunch it's the bush if not the internal rubber cushions (cush).
I'd check the bush first, and a new one won't hurt anyway. If it's the cush blocks then bad news...
But wait until Larryboy chimes in, I know he's swapped his basket for a Hinson already.




As a totally unrelated remark, Thanks2Those who help me, either here or via PM. Much appreciated, it shows this forum is attended by a breed of very international pals indeed
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:28 AM   #17723
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..... and within seconds a plethora of posts fly in so my previous post looks dated by default.
Thanks LB for not disappointing
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:31 AM   #17724
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The howl is because the inner and outer basket fingers are hammered...like done, junk. See all those neat little indentations where the clutch fingers engage the basket fingers? Yeah, they're not supposed to be there.

Get a Hinson outer basket and a new Honda inner hub. If money is tight you can file/sand the ridges out and get some more life out of it.

The in/out basket play is normal, but a new bushing won't hurt.
mine is all torn down now, but i had slight indentations on my basket, never howled though, and i'm pretty sure its stock plates.
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:35 AM   #17725
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..... and within seconds a plethora of posts fly in so my previous post looks dated by default.
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mine is all torn down now, but i had slight indentations on my basket, never howled though, and i'm pretty sure its stock plates.

I'd run that one awhile yet. First symptoms will be a strange delay to clutch engagement, like the cable is getting frayed and hanging. As it gets worse, it'll chirp and howl as you roll away in first.

The one in the video a page back is super bad, I'd replace the hub and outer basket on that one.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:57 AM   #17726
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The one in the video a page back is super bad, I'd replace the hub and outer basket on that one.
Thanks for the help

New basket lock nut and bushing on the way. Going to take some measurements and try smoothing out the basket in the video see if it will get me through the rest of the season. Going to end up ordering a hinson I guess.
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:25 PM   #17727
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I am sure its been asked before but here I go
Clarke 4.3 vs IMS 4.6
I have the Clarke in red (going natural now) and I don't think the fitment was that good So is it worth the extra bucks and getting IMS
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:38 PM   #17728
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Got a question for the experts. I'm checking the valves on my neighbors 01 pig and the valves are super tight. Would this contribute to excessive oil consumption? All of the valves are tight.



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Old 08-02-2013, 07:54 PM   #17729
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Got a question for the experts. I'm checking the valves on my neighbors 01 pig and the valves are super tight. Would this contribute to excessive oil consumption? All of the valves are tight.
No, but it will make it hard to start.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:44 AM   #17730
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I am sure its been asked before but here I go
Clarke 4.3 vs IMS 4.6
I have the Clarke in red (going natural now) and I don't think the fitment was that good So is it worth the extra bucks and getting IMS
Yes, got dual IMSs and the fitment is superb. Also got a Clarke, and am disappointed for your same reasons, plus I find the finish not as good.


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I'm checking the valves on my neighbors 01 pig and the valves are super tight. Would this contribute to excessive oil consumption? All of the valves are tight.
Should not be but '2001' is more likely to contribute to this. And, if the valves are tight due to them having run out of adjustment (ie hammered into the seats) then off the hat must come..
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