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Old 09-29-2013, 08:03 AM   #18241
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XR650R sub frame

Ive been running the Globetrottin subframe and its worked out well.

http://www.globetrottin.com/Steel-su...650R_p_16.html

I got the one without a built in rack because I already have a small Manracks to use, and with a bigger rack I would be tempted to load up too much gear.

I am quite sure because it does not flex around as much, I could carry my gear with more security. I never lost a single item off the back of my bike on my 2,000 mile New Mexico trip. Riding through miles and miles of whoops, dips, and ruts the subframe held up where the stock one would be flexing all around, and could eventually crack.

It think it also helps when you dump the bike, its more sturdy for picking up and lifting the bike around when needed.

Yes, its a bit pricey but I figure on keeping my XRR for a long time, so was OK with spending the extra coin for peace of mind.


The subframe held up well, happy with it!





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Old 09-29-2013, 08:12 AM   #18242
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I've got a subframe insert just spinning in the subframe. It's the lower right one that holds the side panel on.
Any solutions for this?
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Old 09-29-2013, 12:57 PM   #18243
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Nope, you leave the idle system well alone, in fact I'd revert to the 68S again.
You need to change the main, obviously, as anything above ~1/8 throttle is fed by this jet. Run rich? Smaller main, and vice versa. And, only when you've got the main ballpark you start fiddling with the needleclip, as this thing only finetunes.
Before all though, clean airfilter, clean tank, fuel filter, clean carb with correct float level set is what you make sure of.
Thanks for the help. I changed the main from a 168 to a 162. What a difference. It runs great. I changed the pilot back to the 65s too. It did help with the idle. The bike sounds good and runs strong.
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Old 09-29-2013, 05:50 PM   #18244
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Carb running out of fuel. After 600-700 meters.

I put the stock carb back in today after pulling out the Mikuni. The stock carb fired straight up and idle quite well once the air/fuel and the idle adjustment was massaged.
Once I took it for a short ride it powered up well and pulled like it should. However within 600-700 meters (straight line, paved asphalt) it began to bog and eventually stall like it was running out of fuel.

I was thinking that perhaps the float valve was sticking and not allowing in fuel or the petcock/fuel line has some sort of obstruction.
What does the group think?
Anyone had a similar issue?
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Old 09-29-2013, 06:35 PM   #18245
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Does anyone else have gearing recomendations for dual sport usage?
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Old 09-29-2013, 06:41 PM   #18246
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[QUOTE=1bigrn;22440960]I put the stock carb back in today after pulling out the Mikuni. The stock carb fired straight up and idle quite well once the air/fuel and the idle adjustment was massaged.
Once I took it for a short ride it powered up well and pulled like it should. However within 600-700 meters (straight line, paved asphalt) it began to bog and eventually stall like it was running out of fuel.

I was thinking that perhaps the float valve was sticking and not allowing in fuel or the petcock/fuel line has some sort of obstruction.
What does the group think?
Anyone had a similar issue?


Basics,
  1. Check fuel flow out the carby supply hose
  2. Check fuel tank breather hose
  3. Remove rubber seal under the fuel tank cap and check breather passages are clear
  4. Check carby float bowl breather hoses are not blocked or kinked (cut an inch or so off their length to ensure no blockages)
  5. Check fuel filter (if you have one)
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Old 09-29-2013, 07:52 PM   #18247
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Does anyone else have gearing recomendations for dual sport usage?
I like 15/48 or 45. The 48 is for more dirt, 45 for less dirt.
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Old 09-29-2013, 08:30 PM   #18248
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I like 15/48 or 45. The 48 is for more dirt, 45 for less dirt.
That's about what I use most frequently. Or 14/45 for quicker changes I only have the 14/15 front and 45/48 rear. So I just use those combos


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Old 09-30-2013, 08:29 AM   #18249
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Ive been running the Globetrottin subframe and its worked out well.

http://www.globetrottin.com/Steel-su...650R_p_16.html


The subframe held up well, happy with it!




I could be wrong on this one, but I recall a few years back someone posted a problem with using the steel subframe. The extra rigidity of the subframe caused the mounting points in the Aluminum main frame to crack. Am I all wet here? I've been resisting the move to a steel sub-frame for this reason.
I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:48 AM   #18250
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Giant loop mojavi + rear rack?

Hi!

I have a "Moto Pro Billet" rear rack on my BRP.

I donīt really like carrying to much weight on the rack because of weight distribution issues + that fact that i have problems putting my leg over the beast at technical woods riding .

I like what I have read concerning the The Giant Loop Mojavi.

1. Will It work together with my rack? (havent seen picutres of Mojavi + rear rack)

2. I, like most BRP owners, have done some drilling in the left side panel, will the Mojavi bag cover this holes?
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:48 AM   #18251
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I could be wrong on this one, but I recall a few years back someone posted a problem with using the steel subframe. The extra rigidity of the subframe caused the mounting points in the Aluminum main frame to crack. Am I all wet here? I've been resisting the move to a steel sub-frame for this reason.
I hope I'm wrong.
You are correct.
In the case of an accident type load the extra stiffness can greatly increase the potential to break the casting on the right side of the frame more so as the stiffness of the sub frame increases.

And while repairing cast aluminum is Doable, It usually is always less structural than before. Possibly rendering your frame useless.

I don't crash often but when I do its usually hard, for that reason I stuck with the stock sub frame.

I would rather replace a sub frame than the main frame.
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:17 PM   #18252
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Thanks guys!

I don't really understand the usefulness of the stock looking sub frame. Ok, it's steel. But, you can't tie in a pannier system to it. Now the sub frame with the rack over the rear fender. That at least looks like you could tie in a pannier systen to the sub frame.

Am I missing something...?

At one time he offered bolt on side racks that were nearly perfect for Wolfman luggage. That's what I have.

I used both the Wolfman and Coyote on my trip.
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:41 PM   #18253
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You are correct.
In the case of an accident type load the extra stiffness can greatly increase the potential to break the casting on the right side of the frame more so as the stiffness of the sub frame increases.

And while repairing cast aluminum is Doable, It usually is always less structural than before. Possibly rendering your frame useless.

I don't crash often but when I do its usually hard, for that reason I stuck with the stock sub frame.

I would rather replace a sub frame than the main frame.
the steel bracing in the top legs of the sub frame is specifically placed to ensure any load put forward to the main frame is directly inline, greatly reducing the possibility of a frame breakage.
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:50 PM   #18254
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Hi!

I have a "Moto Pro Billet" rear rack on my BRP.

I donīt really like carrying to much weight on the rack because of weight distribution issues + that fact that i have problems putting my leg over the beast at technical woods riding .

I like what I have read concerning the The Giant Loop Mojavi.

1. Will It work together with my rack? (havent seen picutres of Mojavi + rear rack)

2. I, like most BRP owners, have done some drilling in the left side panel, will the Mojavi bag cover this holes?
I had the same rack on my pig, Personally I didn't like it with the GL bags, GL did their homework, the bags work great on dirt-bikes. I have the Coyote and mojavi and Man- Racks rear fender/ subframe brace?( bags work fine without it though). Pm me your email and I'll shoot you some pic's if you want. ADVrider is not letting me post photos for some reason.

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Old 09-30-2013, 11:08 PM   #18255
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At one time he offered bolt on side racks that were nearly perfect for Wolfman luggage. That's what I have.

I used both the Wolfman and Coyote on my trip.
Pictures of combined set up, please...
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