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Old 09-30-2013, 07:48 AM   #18256
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Giant loop mojavi + rear rack?

Hi!

I have a "Moto Pro Billet" rear rack on my BRP.

I donīt really like carrying to much weight on the rack because of weight distribution issues + that fact that i have problems putting my leg over the beast at technical woods riding .

I like what I have read concerning the The Giant Loop Mojavi.

1. Will It work together with my rack? (havent seen picutres of Mojavi + rear rack)

2. I, like most BRP owners, have done some drilling in the left side panel, will the Mojavi bag cover this holes?
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:48 AM   #18257
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I could be wrong on this one, but I recall a few years back someone posted a problem with using the steel subframe. The extra rigidity of the subframe caused the mounting points in the Aluminum main frame to crack. Am I all wet here? I've been resisting the move to a steel sub-frame for this reason.
I hope I'm wrong.
You are correct.
In the case of an accident type load the extra stiffness can greatly increase the potential to break the casting on the right side of the frame more so as the stiffness of the sub frame increases.

And while repairing cast aluminum is Doable, It usually is always less structural than before. Possibly rendering your frame useless.

I don't crash often but when I do its usually hard, for that reason I stuck with the stock sub frame.

I would rather replace a sub frame than the main frame.
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Old 09-30-2013, 12:17 PM   #18258
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Thanks guys!

I don't really understand the usefulness of the stock looking sub frame. Ok, it's steel. But, you can't tie in a pannier system to it. Now the sub frame with the rack over the rear fender. That at least looks like you could tie in a pannier systen to the sub frame.

Am I missing something...?

At one time he offered bolt on side racks that were nearly perfect for Wolfman luggage. That's what I have.

I used both the Wolfman and Coyote on my trip.
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Old 09-30-2013, 03:41 PM   #18259
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You are correct.
In the case of an accident type load the extra stiffness can greatly increase the potential to break the casting on the right side of the frame more so as the stiffness of the sub frame increases.

And while repairing cast aluminum is Doable, It usually is always less structural than before. Possibly rendering your frame useless.

I don't crash often but when I do its usually hard, for that reason I stuck with the stock sub frame.

I would rather replace a sub frame than the main frame.
the steel bracing in the top legs of the sub frame is specifically placed to ensure any load put forward to the main frame is directly inline, greatly reducing the possibility of a frame breakage.
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:50 PM   #18260
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Hi!

I have a "Moto Pro Billet" rear rack on my BRP.

I donīt really like carrying to much weight on the rack because of weight distribution issues + that fact that i have problems putting my leg over the beast at technical woods riding .

I like what I have read concerning the The Giant Loop Mojavi.

1. Will It work together with my rack? (havent seen picutres of Mojavi + rear rack)

2. I, like most BRP owners, have done some drilling in the left side panel, will the Mojavi bag cover this holes?
I had the same rack on my pig, Personally I didn't like it with the GL bags, GL did their homework, the bags work great on dirt-bikes. I have the Coyote and mojavi and Man- Racks rear fender/ subframe brace?( bags work fine without it though). Pm me your email and I'll shoot you some pic's if you want. ADVrider is not letting me post photos for some reason.

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Old 09-30-2013, 10:08 PM   #18261
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At one time he offered bolt on side racks that were nearly perfect for Wolfman luggage. That's what I have.

I used both the Wolfman and Coyote on my trip.
Pictures of combined set up, please...
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:15 PM   #18262
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I could be wrong on this one, but I recall a few years back someone posted a problem with using the steel subframe. The extra rigidity of the subframe caused the mounting points in the Aluminum main frame to crack. Am I all wet here? I've been resisting the move to a steel sub-frame for this reason.
I hope I'm wrong.
That sounds possible. But, I'm no engineer. I'm never going to camp off the bike. So, it's hotel for me. That means the GL bags that I have will work.

I'm planning a BMW HPN build. That bike will have hard luggage on it.
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:34 AM   #18263
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Pictures of combined set up, please...

Pictures in my "Go, Get Lost - Heading South" ride report on the sig. Weight and packing was revised (or lost) in Baja, but I think there are some pictures of the racks, etc.

Currently I just have the subframe mounted and the bolt on racks are off. If I end up selling my XRR, the whole set-up will be for sale. No idea if and when that would happen though. I'd part everything aftermarket on the bike and just sell XRR stock.
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:28 PM   #18264
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xr650r swingarm install help!!

HI, I have just finished greasing my rear shock linkage and swing arm bearings and when I reinstalled the swing arm, its as if the frame has expanded or the swing arm has shrunk!! The dust cap on the right side before I took it apart was tight to the frame,and after reinstall there is now a quarter inch gap between the dust cap and frame. This is with preload nut and pivot bolt torqued to spec. Any one have any thoughts as to why? Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 10-01-2013, 10:12 PM   #18265
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Did you screw in the hollow bolt before torquing the nut that the swingarm bolt goes through?

Are all the dust caps in place?

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Old 10-02-2013, 07:38 AM   #18266
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yes I followed the procedure from the manual. Both dust caps are on swing arm, install swing arm,insert pivot bolt from left side to line it all up, then I screwed in the preload adjuster in until it touched the dust cap and torqued to 9ftlbs. Then torqued lock nut to 45ftbls. pilled out pivot bolt re inserted from right side an torqued to 80ftlbs. The thing that is strange is the preload adjustment nut has to thread through the frame until I can see it come through the frame and then it touches the dust cap so once everything is all tightened up instead of the dust cap up tight against the frame like it was before I took it apart, now there is about a quarter inch gap between cap and the frame. im pretty shure im not missing anything. Someone else on another forum had the exact same problem but out of 20 replies no one had an answer. Ill try and get some pictures up.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:07 AM   #18267
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I can look at my 2 XRR's and see what the gap is. I don't think it changed much when I put in new bearings and seals this spring in one bike.

Maybe something was out of position before disassembly.

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Old 10-02-2013, 08:12 AM   #18268
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Busy installing a trailtech vapor on my XRR. Any idea where I can get live power from?
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:21 AM   #18269
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I can look at my 2 XRR's and see what the gap is. I don't think it changed much when I put in new bearings and seals this spring in one bike.

Maybe something was out of position before disassembly.

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That would be great. Any pics I found on the net showed both dust caps tight to the frame like mine was. I wonder if the frame relaxes after the first time the pivot bolt is removed.

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Old 10-02-2013, 11:06 AM   #18270
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That would be great. Any pics I found on the net showed both dust caps tight to the frame like mine was. I wonder if the frame relaxes after the first time the pivot bolt is removed.
I am going to put my swingarm back on in the next day or two. I will snap a picture if I notice any gap. If it does indeed flex, mine will too because its been sitting with the swingarm off for a week.
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